Ultra Short Training At Race Pace

Don't see how locking the thread would do anything about that. The thread was still accessible, you just couldn't post anything new to it. Yeah, I was curious as well, I was about to contact a moderator.

Say you're wanting to improve your 100 Free time, and currently it's like a 1:05, would you do 25's on 26.5 seconds holding 16.5 seconds? Or would you get your ideal times and then then divide those by 4 and do 25's on that time? could someone answer this as well?

We don't know either. Someone wrote us asking about it and we saw that the thread was closed, but none of us did it (intentionally at least) and there is no record in the logs of anyone closing it. I thought that maybe you closed it as the thread starter (you can do that), but I'm relatively certain that even if that happens, it goes into the logs. So it is unknown and I don't particularly care right now. If there is a rash of such unexplained closings, we'll look into it further, but for now it isn't worth the time. We just re-opened it after it was reported. It's no problem, I was just curious!

Based on my reading of the article,you would want to devide your ideal time by 4.If you aim for your current time,then you are just training to go that time,instead of improving. So like a really reasonable time not large jumps?

What was the deal with this thread being locked yesterday?

Rushall does not specifically say that weight training or dryland is useless for Masters swimmers. In fact here is a link to a study he uses to say that we DO need strength training.coachsci.sdsu.edu/.../hartley.htm Now, here is a study by Zamparo that says the decline in speed as we age is due to other factors www.swimmingscience.net/.../brief-swimming-review-volume-1-edition-7.html I sometimes feel that USRP is like dryland. It makes one stronger and more muscular.

We don't know either. Must be the USMS Forums poltergeist!

Man, you're scaring me now.

Based on my reading of the article,you would want to devide your ideal time by 4. I'm guessing you don't attribute pacing into this training? Like what about people who don't even split? Do we just do this training with the ideal times divided by 4 and that'll build the base and we just execute pacing in the actual race? If you like you can get more nuanced than just dividing your ideal time by 4. The coaches here came up with a race pace chart: forums.usms.org/attachment.php Paces are only for 50s and 100s, but just divide the goal 50 pace by 2 to get the 25 pace. Free & back are different than fly & brst because they are foot touches for the first splits. Keep in mind though that if you want to REALLY be going at true race pace then you need to factor in the time for a turn. For free and back, add about 0.5 sec to get those feet around; for fly & brst, add about a second for the time between the hand touch and the push off (really it is about 0.7-0.8 if you have good turns).

I'm guessing you don't attribute pacing into this training? Like what about people who don't even split? Do we just do this training with the ideal times divided by 4 and that'll build the base and we just execute pacing in the actual race? One giant gain from this type of training: The feeling of being prepared. You know rxactly what time you're capable of doing, it feels like you truly have complete control over your times.