Ultra Short Training At Race Pace

For an age group swimmer training every day using this training method Rushall might be right, but for a masters swimmer, especially if they train 3 or 4 times a week they should notice a big improvement from lifting weights, or at least I have. There are also studies showing weightlifting or higher resistance swim training make swimmers faster so I think Rushall is wrong on this one. I honestly couldn't agree more. More strength = More you can catch in water = More efficient = Get tired less It's pretty obvious logic. I suppose I might have mis read though. He did use a quote which said that Dryland training is not related to performance in competition. One of my major concerns is how do you do this for a lot of events? Like I'll be training 8-9 events, ( just a made up example) 50 Free 100 Free 200 Free 400 Free 200 IM 400 IM 100 *** 100 Fly 100 Backstroke Now with a large amount of events like that I don't see how you could use this sort of training. Note: I can probably get to the pool everyday for 2-3 hours. Would you just do about 40 minutes of a hard main set training the 50 free for maybe 40 minutes? Then you take a tiny break and resume and start to work on another event? Like the 100 Free? If you're training 8 events: You'd be able to work on 2 events a day if you dedicate 2 hours everyday and up to 14 events a week but the problem is that you'd go days without swimming a certain event? Well I guess the insane amount of repetitions makes up for that. Also: Say you're wanting to improve your 100 Free time, and currently it's like a 1:05, would you do 25's on 26.5 seconds holding 16.5 seconds? Or would you get your ideal times and then then divide those by 4 and do 25's on that time?

I know short fast training works because I've done it, and when I did it, I swam well. My training probably wasn't exactly how Rushall recommends. The years I did it were: Nov 1990 - July 1992 1990 50 FR 21.0, 100 FR 46.0 1991 SCY 50 FR 20.52*, 100 FR 46.40 LCM 50 FR 23.65*, 50 FL 25.74 (*done in USS meets) 1992 LCM 50 FL 25.68 1996 & 1996 1995 SCY 50 FR 21.06, 100 FR 46.40, 50 FL 23.22, 50 BK 24.49 1996 SCY 50 FR 21.46, 100 FR 46.79, 50 BK 24.61 2008 2008 SCY 50 FR 21.43, 50 FL 23.20, 50 BK 24.41 (for comparison my 2007 times were) 2007 SCY 50 FR 22.30, 50 FL 23.93, 50 BK 25.75 from Top 10 (Rushall says:) "dryland training will not benefit me at all" I disagree with "dryland training will not benefit me at all." Where did Rushall write that? What was his exact phrasing? For me, strength training is critical to swimming fast. The years I swam my fastest, were the ones when I did short fast training in the pool and got stronger from weights. I was stronger during those years than I was in the years before or after. Strength is a critical component for speed. There is a point of diminishing returns where swimmers might be too big, too strong, and/or too muscular. Which is why body builders and power lifters tend to not be fast swimmers. But most swimmers are no where near the point of being too muscular, too big or too strong. Josh Schneider might be close, he has a great 50 free but doesn't hold up as well in his LCM 100 FR. 2012 USA OLYMPIC TRIALS Men 50 LC Meter Freestyle Finals 1 Jones, Cullen 28 MAC-NC 21.59 908 2 Ervin, Anthony 31 CAL-PC/Undercurr 21.60 907 3 Adrian, Nathan 23 CAL-PC/Tacoma 21.68 897 4 Schneider, Josh 24 MAC-NC 21.78 884 5 Feigen, Jimmy 22 TXLA-ST/Univ. of 21.93 866 6 Grevers, Matt 27 FORD-AZ 22.09 848 7 Small, Adam 22 ZONA-AZ 22.38 815 8 Schnur, Jason 21 OSU-OH 22.53 799 Men 100 LC Meter Freestyle Preliminaries 1 Robison, Scot 23 NSS-NC/UVA 49.08 q873 23.56 25.52 2 Adrian, Nathan 23 CAL-PC/Tacoma 49.17 q868 23.32 25.85 3 Grevers, Matt 27 FORD-AZ 49.24 q864 23.65 25.59 4 Feigen, Jimmy 22 TXLA-ST/Univ. of 49.29 q862 23.33 25.96 5 Lochte, Ryan 27 DBS-FL/Florida 49.33 q859 23.99 25.34 6 Weber-Gale, Garrett 26 TXLA-ST 49.34 q859 23.77 25.57 7 Berens, Ricky 24 TROJ-CA 49.35 q858 24.21 25.14 8 Schneider, Josh 24 MAC-NC 49.37 q857 22.99 26.38 Semi-Finals 1 Adrian, Nathan 23 CAL-PC/Tacoma 48.33 q914 22.64 25.69 2 Feigen, Jimmy 22 TXLA-ST/Univ. of 48.48 q905 22.98 25.50 3 Grevers, Matt 27 FORD-AZ 48.71 q893 22.94 25.77 4 Berens, Ricky 24 TROJ-CA 48.85 q885 23.85 25.00 *5 Robison, Scot 23 NSS-NC/UVA 48.91 q882 23.38 25.53 *5 Lochte, Ryan 27 DBS-FL/Florida 48.91 q882 23.61 25.30 7 Weber-Gale, Garrett 26 TXLA-ST 48.98 q878 23.45 25.53 8 Jones, Cullen 28 MAC-NC 49.03 q875 23.63 25.40 9 Lezak, Jason 36 ROSE-CA 49.05 874 23.55 25.50 10 Walters, David 24 TROJ-CA 49.34 859 23.72 25.62 11 Coville, Alex 23 STAN-PC 49.39 856 23.59 25.80 12 Ellis, Matt 18 NTRO-ST 49.44 854 24.03 25.41 13 Ervin, Anthony 31 CAL-PC/Undercurr 49.46 853 23.14 26.32 14 Savulich, Bobby 24 CW-MI 49.47 852 23.63 25.84 15 Schneider, Josh 24 MAC-NC 49.77 837 23.35 26.42 16 Brunelli, Nick 30 MAC-NC 49.85 833 23.60 26.25

My question is Rushall's training method be superior to traditional training methods? Also Dryland training has no benefit on performance according to this? This is Rushall's theory. I would say it has not been proven. Take it with a serious grain of salt.

This is Rushall's theory. I would say it has not been proven. Take it with a serious grain of salt. For an age group swimmer training every day using this training method Rushall might be right, but for a masters swimmer, especially if they train 3 or 4 times a week they should notice a big improvement from lifting weights, or at least I have. There are also studies showing weightlifting or higher resistance swim training make swimmers faster so I think Rushall is wrong on this one.

I have now done sets of 50s at 200 pace with 20 sec rest,sets of 25s at 100 pace with 10 sec rest and sets of 25s with 12.5 at sprint and 12.5 at recovery speed swum continuously.All of these were done kicking only as I am rehabbing my shoulder which undoubtedly has some effect on the results.I found the sets to be very mentally taxing.Each swim required focus and I felt I had to psyche myself up at every rest.I couldn't do more than 12X25 without my mind saying"enough is enough".I found that if I did sets of 8 with a cool down between each I could do many of these.The rapid clearance of lactate is readily noticed.I got tired,but not in the same way.It was strange that the sets seemed more mentally than physically exhausting.Maybe that was a function of novelty and with more experience I can do them easier.

Maybe one of the links was unsafe

Maybe one of the links was unsafe Don't see how locking the thread would do anything about that. The thread was still accessible, you just couldn't post anything new to it.

I have now done sets of 50s at 200 pace with 20 sec rest,sets of 25s at 100 pace with 10 sec rest and sets of 25s with 12.5 at sprint and 12.5 at recovery speed swum continuously.All of these were done kicking only as I am rehabbing my shoulder which undoubtedly has some effect on the results.I found the sets to be very mentally taxing.Each swim required focus and I felt I had to psyche myself up at every rest.I couldn't do more than 12X25 without my mind saying"enough is enough".I found that if I did sets of 8 with a cool down between each I could do many of these.The rapid clearance of lactate is readily noticed.I got tired,but not in the same way.It was strange that the sets seemed more mentally than physically exhausting.Maybe that was a function of novelty and with more experience I can do them easier. Brent Rushall has always stressed psychological training for athletes maybe this has that as an added benefit? V One of the major things I'm in love with is that you don't need to taper because the way of training in it self does not cause your body to fatigue for too long. So instead of spending 2 weeks in taper where you feel like you're blowing it, you cn continue to practice.

Say you're wanting to improve your 100 Free time, and currently it's like a 1:05, would you do 25's on 26.5 seconds holding 16.5 seconds? Or would you get your ideal times and then then divide those by 4 and do 25's on that time? could someone answer this as well? Based on my reading of the article,you would want to devide your ideal time by 4.If you aim for your current time,then you are just training to go that time,instead of improving.

I've realized one of the sets I do qualifies for UST: 20 x block starts on 0:40