'Elite' Masters diet regimines

my nutritionist told me 60% carbs, 40% protein; refuel after practice with carbs, which replace glycogen lost in muscles. have protein later, rather than sooner, after workouts. also eat (for me, weight 117 or so, 5' 4") around 300 calories a day of healthy fats (olive oil, etc.), which help fight depression as well as provide good energy. i think we eat too much protein in our society; it produces a waste product that leeches calcium out of bones, according to andrew weil and some others i've seen quoted in laundromat magazines. i am not elite masters swimmer, though. just masters swimmer, good enough!

Find me a study that shows the direct effect of proteins or specific ingredients (hormones don't count, because you can get organic or certified hormone free milk) in calcium-laden dairy products on the production of bone mass in the body and I will gladly take my giant wedge of sharp swiss cheese, my glass of milk and my Ben and Jerry's Vermonster (1 word: Glorious) and toss them all out the window (metaphorically speaking of course) and gladly replace my dairy intake with rice, almond and soy based products. Hey, I have an idea for both of you: 8th Continent Light Chocolate Soy Milk. It's non-dairy, it tastes just like chocolate milk :banana:, getting the light version has the same amount of calories as non-fat milk, it provides the protein/ carb which I agree is needed immediately following a workout, and, it tastes great! Silk also makes chocolate soy milk, but I like 8th Continent's better.

I will however do this: I move in to my new place on my own in the next week or two. Starting that day - I'll keep my diet essentially dairy free for exactly one month. I'll miss the cottage cheese, cheese curds, cheese cake, shredded cheese, cheese slices, cheesy pickup lines, etc... but I will try it and keep track of how I'm feeling in my daily blog. I will also try to track my other food intake and sleep levels. I'll put for good measure a ranking from 0-10 (0 being puking sick or hungover) in my USMS Blog. This way everyone can see the progress. Hey, you found a place? You forgot to tell me about that in your e-mails! And, hey, while you're at it, fill me in on the "cheesy pickup line" you used to get that date last Saturday... ;)

Hey, you found a place? You forgot to tell me about that in your e-mails! And, hey, while you're at it, fill me in on the "cheesy pickup line" you used to get that date last Saturday... ;) No need for them. They probably went over her head. :afraid:

i think we eat too much protein in our society Here's someone who agrees with you. He comes across as a bit of a jerk if you ask me, but you can't really argue with his results! qrOOii_ORYQ

The guy is absolutely correct. He's also working out WAY more than I am sitting at my desk 3/4 of my day.

Fruit and raw vegetables will make your body feel soooo great. You´ll recover like a baby if you stick to fruit only after training. Loads of fruit - 4-500 grams. More if you got space :) I personnally don't get dairy. WHY do adults drink *** milk from another species? It's gross, it's disgusting - and it is not healthy. Cow milk is for calves, human milk for human babies. No adult needs milk. It's NOT good for you, cow milk makes your bones erode! Milk preventing osteoporosis is one of the biggest lies ever - something that milk producers will do anything to hide from the consumers: www.news-medical.net/.../13120.aspx

Here's someone who agrees with you. He comes across as a bit of a jerk if you ask me, but you can't really argue with his results! Interesting. But eating chickens and meat is still so much more appealing than grass and fruit.

I personnally don't get dairy. WHY do adults drink *** milk from another species? It's gross, it's disgusting - and it is not healthy. Cow milk is for calves, human milk for human babies. No adult needs milk. It's NOT good for you, cow milk makes your bones erode! Milk preventing osteoporosis is one of the biggest lies ever - something that milk producers will do anything to hide from the consumers: www.news-medical.net/.../13120.aspx While I do not wish to discount your article, a quick read through left me unimpressed and without actual case studies showing further review backing the author's statements. That being said - I'm not going to simply discount the idea that that could be true based on that alone. I will say - I do love me some dairy. MMMMMmmmmmmm I had almost a whole wedge of cheese yesterday. It was amazing.

While I do not wish to discount your article, a quick read through left me unimpressed and without actual case studies showing further review backing the author's statements. That being said - I'm not going to simply discount the idea that that could be true based on that alone. I will say - I do love me some dairy. MMMMMmmmmmmm I had almost a whole wedge of cheese yesterday. It was amazing. I had the same thought. I did some research, found Russell Eaton's blog and 2 books... but there are no critical reviews?!? I can't find any counterpoint - and I'd assume the Dairy Lobby would be all over this like flies on cow pad's if they felt threatened... So, where is the counter point (every major issue has one). Now I guess I am risking hijacking my own thread : ).