'Elite' Masters diet regimines

I guess the only problem that I have with your links is that all of these studies are correlation studies. People have been drinking/eating milk products and meet for literally thousands of years - just the same as we have been eating (glorious) meat. These very same people are probably drinking soft drinks, eating trans fats, and possibly living a sedentary lifestyle (lack of impact on the body through activity could be said to correlate to lower bone density due to less compaction on the bones - that of course is just hearsay.) Find me a study that shows the direct effect of proteins or specific ingredients (hormones don't count, because you can get organic or certified hormone free milk) in calcium-laden dairy products on the production of bone mass in the body and I will gladly take my giant wedge of sharp swiss cheese, my glass of milk and my Ben and Jerry's Vermonster (1 word: Glorious) and toss them all out the window (metaphorically speaking of course) and gladly replace my dairy intake with rice, almond and soy based products.

OR - if you really ARE curious, you could try a few weeks without dairy. Most people I know who tried it are experiencing better digestion, fewer "aches" (head aches, joint aches etc), less mucus (no more running nose) but most of all: more energy. I can honestly say that with the exception of cheese (Quick Tangent: Someone needs to create an "Oliver" style musical about cheese. I can see it now: "Please sir, can I have some more mozzarella?" "MORE?!" "Yes Sir... More" "MOOOOOOREE?!?!?!" :rofl:) I've gone without milk for a couple weeks at a time as my roommates are both lactose intolerant. I'm usually kind of lazy and don't go across the street to get milk unless we're all out of rice dream. I will however do this: I move in to my new place on my own in the next week or two. Starting that day - I'll keep my diet essentially dairy free for exactly one month. I'll miss the cottage cheese, cheese curds, cheese cake, shredded cheese, cheese slices, cheesy pickup lines, etc... but I will try it and keep track of how I'm feeling in my daily blog. I will also try to track my other food intake and sleep levels. I'll put for good measure a ranking from 0-10 (0 being puking sick or hungover) in my USMS Blog. This way everyone can see the progress. I figured - my body is a great place to experiment with this kind of thing. So lets do it.

There is a reason most people feel better if they stop eating cheese. "Approximately 75% of the world's population loses the ability to completely digest a physiological dose of lactose after infancy" www.accessmylibrary.com/.../summary_0286-27939567_ITM Could we please try to stick to nutritional suggestions that are based on something other than politics? Thank you for the article Q, I'll be checking that out after lunch. (and yes - its dairy free). What about guys like Phelps - do you think he chugs a couple glasses of Milk per day?

my nutritionist told me 60% carbs, 40% protein; refuel after practice with carbs, which replace glycogen lost in muscles. have protein later, rather than sooner, after workouts. also eat (for me, weight 117 or so, 5' 4") around 300 calories a day of healthy fats (olive oil, etc.), which help fight depression as well as provide good energy. i think we eat too much protein in our society; it produces a waste product that leeches calcium out of bones, according to andrew weil and some others i've seen quoted in laundromat magazines. Um... I think given your weight and my guess your body comp is in pretty good condition that 60/40 like that is fantastic. You're probably pretty active. However - right after a work out - you do need a little protein. Carbs will only give the muscles fuel to act, but without a little protein (I believe the ratio is 3:1) they can't begin to rebuild themselves efficiently. 8oz of chocolate milk after a workout == amazing results just from personal experience.

I'm not too impressed with my link either ... it was just a quick google search to find a web site in English. I'm not a scientist and really not into convincing anybody, I just don't get why grown men and women drink milk. If you were to drink it directly from the source, you wouldn't, would you? Yuk! Milk (and meat) is full of hormones, it just cannot be good for anyone but babies, who cannot eat real food yet. Some people call milk "liquid meat" ... but that's another story ;) If you're interested, just google MILK or DAIRY and CANCER, CONSTIPATION, OSTEOPOROSIS or what ever you like, and see what you get. Or look here: http://www.milksucks.com Denmark is one of the most dairy-consuming countries. And inhabitated by a populations with one of the worlds highest presences of osteoporosis. Most Asians (still living in Asia) don't eat dairy products, and they have much less osteoporosis than Danes do. Haven't you ever wondered why the Japanese get so old? And are so vital even at very old age? You didn't need to spend much time at the championshipsin Gothenburg to notice, how vital the old Japanese participants were. Simply amazing. The older generations in Japan eat vegetables, no dairy and very little meat and fish - the young Japanese eat more like we do, and they get the same diseases as we do. I don't think the young Japanese will get as old or as vital when aging as their ancestors. But that's pure speculation ... As a high intake of dairy quite often correlates with high meat intake, it's apparently quite difficult to tell the difference between health issues related to dairy intake and issues related to eating meat. I believe dairy and meat are two sides of the same story. And that the safest and most healthy diet is - IMHO - veggies and fruit.

I know, that this thread isn't about milk (sorry) and I cannot find a direct link, but a Danish source states that The Lancet (October 14 2006) brought an article about osteoporosis and dairy intake concluding that populations with the highest intake of dairy products had the highest presence (probably not the right word, sorry again ...) of osteoporosis.

OR - if you really ARE curious, you could try a few weeks without dairy. Most people I know who tried it are experiencing better digestion, fewer "aches" (head aches, joint aches etc), less mucus (no more running nose) but most of all: more energy. And I surely agree, that milk is not the only bad thing in a typical western. Sugar, processed food and alcohol are on the black list too. Eat whole foods to get (or stay) healthy and fit. A dedicated vegan talk: YouTube- Chocolate, Cheese, Meat, and Sugar -- Physically Addictive According to the speaker cheese is one of the most difficult dairy products to skip - due to morphine like substances in dairy, particularly in cheese.

A bit "religious" and quite off topic ... but anyway: www.huffingtonpost.com/.../female-infants-growing-br_b_676402.html

I will however do this: I move in to my new place on my own in the next week or two. Starting that day - I'll keep my diet essentially dairy free for exactly one month. I'll miss the cottage cheese, cheese curds, cheese cake, shredded cheese, cheese slices, cheesy pickup lines, etc... but I will try it and keep track of how I'm feeling in my daily blog. I will also try to track my other food intake and sleep levels. I'll put for good measure a ranking from 0-10 (0 being puking sick or hungover) in my USMS Blog. This way everyone can see the progress. I figured - my body is a great place to experiment with this kind of thing. So lets do it. Respect! Looking forward to read about how things are going. Depending on the quality of the rest of your diet you may feel a bit hung over the first day or two, but that'll pass :)

There is a reason most people feel better if they stop eating cheese. "Approximately 75% of the world's population loses the ability to completely digest a physiological dose of lactose after infancy" www.accessmylibrary.com/.../summary_0286-27939567_ITM Could we please try to stick to nutritional suggestions that are based on something other than politics?