Dolphin kick off wall every time, every stroke?

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Ok, so I laid out of the pool for over 25 years. What I'm seeing now is dolphin kick off the wall seems to be SOP for every stroke. Is that true? Are there any rules and restrictions about this that a returning swimmer should know about? Anything that'll get you DQed? Thanks.
  • About 4 months ago I decided to SDK (streamlined dolphin kick) off of every wall in practice (I'm a freestyler). It took me about a month before it became a habit. Now I can't imagine not doing it. I started off doing 2 or 3 or sometimes 4 off of each wall. Starting right after our big SCM meet in December, my new goal is to do 4 SDK's off of each wall. It is not always easy but it is getting easier and my kick is getting better.:banana:
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    About 4 months ago I decided to SDK (streamlined dolphin kick) off of every wall in practice (I'm a freestyler). It took me about a month before it became a habit. Now I can't imagine not doing it. I started off doing 2 or 3 or sometimes 4 off of each wall. Starting right after our big SCM meet in December, my new goal is to do 4 SDK's off of each wall. It is not always easy but it is getting easier and my kick is getting better.:banana: that's cool Glenn. i tried that in the past but did not have the lungs to pull it off esp on sets of 200's or 300's. my aerobic base is a little better now so i may give it another shot this year. have you noticed a difference in the repeat times you can hold in practice now that you are doing more SDK's?
  • Shane, Haven't worried very much about repeat times at this point, so no I haven't noticed. It is difficult to do the 4 SDK's at the end of a 200, but that is the point. I want to push myself to do it so that when I get to the last wall of a 200 in a race, I will be able to do 3 good SDK's and bury the competition.:D
  • Here is a link (with related links inside) on the timing of the dolphin kick in relation to pulldown and first arm stroke of the BR swimming stroke: forums.usms.org/showthread.php The timing of the dolphin may also be addressed in the rules for this stroke. Happy reading!
  • Thanks much. So those who use the dolphin kick in breaststroke replace the frog kick in their triple glide with a dolphin kick, then? You can't do a frog kick and a dolphin kick, I'm assuming. Breaststroke has totally changed in recent years.In 1986 the rules were changed so that instead of your head having to break the surface all the time it only had to break the surface once/stroke.You also then could recover your hands over the surface.The hand recovery rule was then clarified that your elbows must be in the water at all times.The hand recovery rule hasn't made much difference,but the head rule has totally changed the stroke.Go to http://breaststroke.info/ for more information.At the 2004 Olympics Kitajima won the 100M BR while famously doing a dolphin kick during the pulldown.The refs didn't call it and said that it was hard to tell a dolphin kick from the natural undulation that could accompany a hard pulldown.The rule was changed to allow this,but then Kitajima started doing the Dolphin kick before the pulldown.Rather than say "enough is enough" FINA wimped out again and clarified that the pulldown begins as soon as the hands are separated.
  • Links are 404 now. :-( With all the back and forth on those threads, I'm more confused now than anything. So I may better achieve clarity, when is the dolphin kick allowed in the breaststroke glide and when is it illegal? As for the other strokes, I reckon you can do as you please as long as you don't take it past 15m? A single downward dolphin kick is allowed during the pulldown off the turns.The pulldown is ruled to start when your hands separate from streamline and finish when your hands reach your sides.It must be followed by a breaststroke kick.On the surface(after the pullout) during the stroke a dolphin kick isn't allowed,but many swimmers have significant body undulation that looks almost like a dolphin kick.The key is that there is no downward movement of the legs from the knees with the feet turned in(instead of out like in a breaststroke kick.)
  • So basically, the legal glide is now streamline glide, pull with single dolphin kick, frog kick during recovery, then surface? Yes,you've got it!
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    ok, i'll have a go: breaststroke rules now allow one dolphin kick during the pullout only. dolphin is the only legal kick for fly. any kick including dolphin is legal for free and back. many people are faster at dolphin kicking off the wall than flutter kicking, especially those who learned it growing up, and some are faster dolphin kicking underwater than swimming at the surface. this is limited in free, fly and back by the rules to the first 15m off the wall (or blocks). dolphin kicking uses a lot of air so most distance freestylers take few if any dolphin kicks at least until the last lap or so. Thanks much. So those who use the dolphin kick in breaststroke replace the frog kick in their triple glide with a dolphin kick, then? You can't do a frog kick and a dolphin kick, I'm assuming.
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    So those who use the dolphin kick in breaststroke replace the frog kick in their triple glide with a dolphin kick, then? You can't do a frog kick and a dolphin kick, I'm assuming. You can use both a frog and dolphin kick in the breaststroke pullout. Only one dolphin kick, though. You can also put your head underwater in breaststroke these days.
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    ok, i'll have a go: breaststroke rules now allow one dolphin kick during the pullout only. dolphin is the only legal kick for fly. any kick including dolphin is legal for free and back. many people are faster at dolphin kicking off the wall than flutter kicking, especially those who learned it growing up, and some are faster dolphin kicking underwater than swimming at the surface. this is limited in free, fly and back by the rules to the first 15m off the wall (or blocks). dolphin kicking uses a lot of air so most distance freestylers take few if any dolphin kicks at least until the last lap or so.