two beat kicks?

I am curious how many of you do two beat kicks? Are there any other world champions beside Manaudou who did two beat kicks? Also curious whether Manaudou does two beat kick in backstroke?? I do a two beat kick in freestyle. 4 beat kick in backstroke.

I do a two beat kick in freestyle. 4 beat kick in backstroke. Does that mean, L arm and L leg go down together (or R arm and R leg)? How do you keep from rolling over?

I definitely do a two beat kick in freestyle. Backstroke...not really sure, I never really paid that much attention :)

Does that mean, L arm and L leg go down together (or R arm and R leg)? How do you keep from rolling over? One uses the opposite arm and leg, so it's right arm, left leg, then left arm and right leg. I use a 2 beat kick when swimming easy.

One uses the opposite arm and leg, so it's right arm, left leg, then left arm and right leg. I use a 2 beat kick when swimming easy. I get the 2-beat kick in free, but not the 4-beat kick in backstroke. Whatever works....

I get the 2-beat kick in free, but not the 4-beat kick in backstroke. I have always assumed that when people say "4-beat kick" they mean a 3/1 pattern.

I generally use a two-beat kick except off the walls (in a sprint) or for the final 10-15 yards/meters of any race. The 6-beat kick just wipes me out!

From a personal standpoint, I don't find much to any value in using a 2 beat kick in my swimming. I have tried to develop it, but it is awakard for one. Plus, I always swim slower using it verus just letting my legs hang out. In fact, my swimming feels more tired using a 2-beat kick compared to when I just let my legs drag. Now, having said that, there are people that love it and find it to be useful. The one thing people need to be careful of when using a 2 beat kick, is how wide they let their legs separate. The legs shouldn't get any wider than the body. People claim they get a "surge" when using the kick. If you watch the majority of people who feel this surge, their legs are so wide outside their body, that they have essential stopped in the water and when they do their kick, it does send the forward...feeling like they are surging. In reality, they are stopping-starting-stopping, etc. So, remember it is opposite arm-opposite leg, keep in the frame work of the body.

So, remember it is opposite arm-opposite leg, keep in the frame work of the body. i find it useful to think of the 2 beat like a whip (as opposed to a scissor). with the proper timing, the amplitude of the kick can be rather small but quite effective.

i find it useful to think of the 2 beat like a whip (as opposed to a scissor). with the proper timing, the amplitude of the kick can be rather small but quite effective. Not disagreeing that it isn't effective for some people. I do think that a number of folks make it too big an amplitude, thus negating any benefits that a 2-beat kick can provide. But, for me, it isn't effective.