200 Breaststroke time

Thanks for all the input. I'm swimming the 50, 100, and 200 *** next weekend so I'll let you know how I did. I entered a 2:32.00 Last meet I did: 32.17 for the 50 1:09.41 for the 100 (33.12/36.29)

2:32.93 I went to USA Swimming's Power Point calculator and your 100 *** time gives you 370 points. 370 points for a 200 *** is 2:32.93. www.usaswimming.org/.../DesktopDefault.aspx This thing is pretty darn good. I go about 1:19 for the 100 and that gave 109 points which puts the 200 about 2:54...thats pretty much spot on.

depends on many things how well conditioned you are if you are a sprinter or a middle distance swimmer how close the 100 time is to your true potential how your 200 race goes, turns splitting ... the bench mark how many seconds you have to add when you double you 100 time double 100 time & add _____ seconds 06 - 10 : Distance swimmers 10 - 14 : Typical 100 swimmers 14 - 20 : sprinters, bad splitters, & poorly conditioned swimmers my guess is 2:33 1:09 + 1:09 + 15 = 2:33 now find out. Ande's estimations are great,but as you can see from it there could be a 14 sec difference depending on your type.How did you split your 100?How good are you at pacing? I was looking at some of the Top Ten times and peoples 100 to 200 were all over the place.You just need to swim it and let us know.

The last time I did a 100 and 200 *** (SCY) at the same meet, my times were something like-- 100: 1:13 200: 2:38 At the time I was swimming about 3-4 days/week, with no other exercise. I was more of a mid-distance swimmer. Right now, I'd love to swim times like those. Funny, as I've lost weight and my free has gotten faster, my *** has slowed (I do around a 2:50 for 200 in workout now, and around 1:20 for a 100). But then again, I don't swim nearly as much non-free as I used to. I also think running has taken a toll on my legs for doing ***.

Wanted to give an update to those of offered predictions. As I mentioned previously in the thread the meet prior I went: 32.17 for the 50 1:09.41 for the 100 (33.12/36.29) This weekend I went: 31.17 for the 50 1:08.54 for the 100, no splits yet 2:36.29 for the 200, no splits yet I tried to take Jim's advice and go out easy on the first 75, which I did, but I didn't feel like I had a ton of energy on the back half though. Maybe the splits will tell the story.

Splits... This weekend I went: 31.17 for the 50 1:08.54 for the 100 32.27 - 36.27 2:36.29 for the 200 34.01 - 39.83 (1:13.84) 41.47 - 40.98 (1:22.45)

Generally, for all strokes for the 200, it's ideal for your last three 50 splits to be roughly the same, but that can be hard to do in breaststroke especially. What I try to do, and I've had my most successful 200 breasts doing it, is to hold back a little bit more than I think I should on the first 50, you always go faster than you think you are. Then try to hold the same pace on the second 50, which actually means about 3-4 seconds slower. Really kick it into gear and speed up the third 50, this is the make or break, it hurts like nothing else in the 2-*** but if you pull it off your third 50 will be about the same speed as the second. And for the last 50 tell yourself you only need to get through one more 50 and you might just survive. The adrenaline should carry you to a third 50 in a row at about the same pace. Then while you're trying to figure out how you're going to climb out of the pool in a somewhat dignified manner you'll probably tell yourself you're never swimming it again. Until later that evening when you're analyzing your splits and figuring out how you're going to drop a few seconds next time. Getting a good time in the 200 *** is the most satisfying thing in swimming, for me. You really feel like you earned it. If you can go a 31 and a 1:08 I bet with some conditioning you can be under 2:30 in the 200 no problem. In a perfect world you'd probably want to split it 34, 38, 38, 38 with the added tenths here and there that should put you at 2:29 or so. To do that though you need to do a lot of *** in practice. You should be able to do 37s and 38s from a push without killing yourself. If you can get down to where you can do a 1:15 for a 100 from a push without dying you'll be in good shape. Good luck with your future 200s. This is an awful, awful event to swim but if you can master it you can say that you've perfected the hardest event in swimming.

nice 50 & 100 looks like you are a sprinter & had issues with your 200 you did a pretty good job holding around the same time on your 2nd, 3rd & 4th 50's but when we compare your 1st 50 with your 2nd, 3rd, & 4th 50's or your first 100 to your 2nd 100 it looks like you had way too much of a drop off 3 seconds slower than your 50 time is a good way to go out, maybe a touch too hard, usually whatever you hold back on the first 100 you'll gain that plus more on the 2nd 100 What suit did you wear? below are times & splits from the 200 *** finals at the 2009 Div 1 Mens NCAAs Event 18 Men 200 Yard Breaststroke ======================================================== Invited Time: 1:56.07 NCAA: N 1:51.96 3/28/2009 Sean R Mahoney, CAL-PC NCAA Meet: M 1:51.96 3/28/2009 Sean R Mahoney, CAL-PC American: A 1:51.74 3/3/2006 Brenden Hansen, Longhorn Aquatic US Open: O 1:51.74 3/3/2006 Brendan Hansen, Longhorn Aquatic Name Year School Prelims Finals Points ======================================================== A - Final 1 Versfeld, Neil UGA 1:52.10 1:51.40O 20 r:+0.69 25.12 53.57 (28.45) 1:22.02 (28.45) 1:51.40 (29.38) 2 Mahoney, Sean R CAL 1:51.96 1:52.34 17 r:+0.75 24.79 53.24 (28.45) 1:22.63 (29.39) 1:52.34 (29.71) 3 Kornfeld, Paul STAN 1:53.52 1:52.55 16 r:+0.76 25.52 54.35 (28.83) 1:23.57 (29.22) 1:52.55 (28.98) 4 Klein, Adam AUB 1:53.44 1:52.96 15 r:+0.78 25.28 53.61 (28.33) 1:22.96 (29.35) 1:52.96 (30.00) 5 Criste, John STAN 1:53.56 1:52.98 14 r:+0.83 25.96 54.62 (28.66) 1:23.77 (29.15) 1:52.98 (29.21) 6 Aljand, Martti CAL 1:53.96 1:53.68 13 r:+0.71 25.59 54.58 (28.99) 1:24.03 (29.45) 1:53.68 (29.65) 7 Koon, Nolan CAL 1:53.78 1:53.90 12 r:+0.73 25.70 54.87 (29.17) 1:24.37 (29.50) 1:53.90 (29.53) 8 Burckle, Clark FLOR 1:53.89 1:54.96 11 r:+0.72 25.91 55.14 (29.23) 1:24.73 (29.59) 1:54.96 (30.23) B - Final 9 Hurley, Ryan UVA 1:54.39 1:53.93 9 r:+0.69 26.14 55.23 (29.09) 1:24.58 (29.35) 1:53.93 (29.35) 10 Magruder, Agustin TEX 1:54.85 1:53.97 7 r:+0.72 25.81 54.57 (28.76) 1:24.02 (29.45) 1:53.97 (29.95) 11 Lovelace, Curtis STAN 1:54.95 1:54.63 6 r:+0.73 26.25 55.51 (29.26) 1:25.05 (29.54) 1:54.63 (29.58) 12 Brown, Jack ARIZ 1:54.05 1:54.91 5 r:+0.76 26.27 55.52 (29.25) 1:25.34 (29.82) 1:54.91 (29.57) 13 Dugonjic, Damir CAL 1:54.07 1:54.99 4 r:+0.80 25.20 54.59 (29.39) 1:24.79 (30.20) 1:54.99 (30.20) 14 Liivamagi, Martin CAL 1:55.22 1:55.31 3 r:+0.74 25.75 54.75 (29.00) 1:24.67 (29.92) 1:55.31 (30.64) 15 Titus, Marcus ARIZ 1:55.11 1:56.31 2 r:+0.71 25.98 55.37 (29.39) 1:25.12 (29.75) 1:56.31 (31.19) 16 Weltz, Scott UCD 1:55.11 1:57.31 1 r:+0.75 26.52 55.89 (29.37) 1:26.27 (30.38) 1:57.31 (31.04) Splits... This weekend I went: 31.17 for the 50 1:08.54 for the 100 32.27 - 36.27 2:36.29 for the 200 34.01 - 39.83 (1:13.84) 41.47 - 40.98 (1:22.45)

I like the splits for the 100 a lot. I think you swam it very well. I recently swam a 1:06.85 100 *** with 31.45/35.40 splits. My best time and the race felt really good overall. I can't really comment on the 200 since I don't race it (maybe someday). It seems the splits are a bit far apart between the 100s. Your 4th 50 was faster than your 3rd 50.

Ande - you asked what suit I wore. I wore a standard speedo brief. I'm sure if I wore a new tech suit the time would've been better. However, I didn't even wear a cap, they never seem to stay on. Wonder how much time a cap accounts for. I don't know of any upcoming meets but I'll try and take the advice I've received for next time. Don't want to make excuses but the poor 200 time could also be a result of a cold I came down with that day. The 100 was on Saturday. The 200 was on Sunday, I felt a little tired during the day on Sunday but attributed it to swimming 10 races in 2 days. By the time Sunday night rolled around however I had a full on head cold.