The Butterfly Lane

Butterfly, beautiful to watch, difficult to train. We SDK off every wall. We're most likely to smack hands with each other and those beside us. Fly's fun to sprint but no fun when the piano comes down What did you do in practice today? the breastroke lane The Middle Distance Lane The Backstroke Lane The Butterfly Lane The SDK Lane The Taper Lane The Distance Lane The IM Lane The Sprint Free Lane The Pool Deck
  • I went a 28.54. Split a 12.5 on the 1st 25, and then died. I guess not too bad for 26 years off and 2 months of practice--but I have a LONG way to go. My stroke looks really weak and choppy. The Knoxville pool is perhaps the best facility I have ever seen. The meet director and Knoxville masters were VERY friendly and welcoming. I will keep an eye out for more meets at this venue.
  • The Knoxville pool is perhaps the best facility I have ever seen. The meet director and Knoxville masters were VERY friendly and welcoming. I will keep an eye out for more meets at this venue. Thanks for the positive review! The meet was at the Allan Jones Intercollegiate Aquatic Center, a very new (opened in 2008) state-of-the-art indoor 50 meter competition pool with adjacent diving well. The layout is similar to the pool at Auburn, or if you were at nats last spring, Georgia Tech. The photo shows how the pool was set up during the meet. We swam at the far end, close to the diving well, and had the ENTIRE 10 lane, 25 yard section in the foreground available for warmup/cooldown. The meet director, Jessica Hart, who is also our coach and head of the masters program, did indeed do a spectacular, thorough, and professional job. In the short time she's been here (since last July), she's apparently become quite plugged in with the UT swimming program and had all the logistics with the facility and the officials and the timers and who know what else -- all worked out. Very well done! Jessica is thinking about organizing a masters meet in the spring, but the details are not yet known. Hilariously, White Lightning and I did indeed draw adjacent lanes in the 50 fly! But if he died on the way back, I died worse! :whiteflag: I'm blaming it on the 200 back ... :blah: It was a fun meet! Thanks for coming! :chug:
  • :banana: Now that I'm getting back into good shape my fly is coming back to me (not that it ever left). Last year I had about 1 1/2 hours a week of training and this year about 5+ hours a week. This makes a BIG difference. I've been doing some amazing fly workouts too, here is one of them: 7 x 300 Fly @ 1:00 rest after each 300 #1-3 - 300 straight (honestly #2 was the hardest part of the whole thing) (I went 3:57, 4:01, 3:58) #4 - Broken 150s @ :15 rest (1:58, 2:00) #5 - Broken 100s @ :15 rest (1:14, 1:18, 1:18) #6 - Broken 50's @ :15 rest (started at :39, got down to :34 on last one) #7 - Broken 25's @ :15 rest (these ones felt like sprints, I just went fast) Yes, I'm crazy, but as long as I have the ability to do it, I will. I don't do this kind of stuff day after day, I do need to recover. I signed up for my hometown meet in about 3 weeks, doing the 50, 100, 200 fly, and capping it off with the 500 Free (as fly of course). Shouldn't be too bad. I've done a few 400s over the past few months in practice. I just know that the 200 fly will feel like a sprint after a while. :bliss:
  • 800 warm up 16 x 50 IM order kick down & full stroke back 10 x 100 stroke 10 200 ALT free & IM with the last one all fly cool down
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    I'm rehabbing a torn rotator cuff and I've been staying away from fly altogether. It is, however, my best stroke and a lot of fun (when you're sprinting at least). Has anyone been able to get their fly back after a torn rotator without surgery? I'm trying to stay away from the knife and the six months out of the pool, if possible. I guess I'm looking for a success story to give me a little hope, if there's one out there.
  • I'm rehabbing a torn rotator cuff and I've been staying away from fly altogether. It is, however, my best stroke and a lot of fun (when you're sprinting at least). Has anyone been able to get their fly back after a torn rotator without surgery? I'm trying to stay away from the knife and the six months out of the pool, if possible. I guess I'm looking for a success story to give me a little hope, if there's one out there. So far, so good for me. I'm 52, fly is my best stroke, and I had bilateral shoulder pain at Nationals last May. An MRI showed partial tears of the subscapularis (a large tear), supraspinatus, and infraspinatus tendons, and a SLAP II tear in the left shoulder, and partial tears of the supraspinatus and infraspinatus tendons, a SLAP II tear, and bad AC joint arthritis in the right shoulder. I had platelet rich plasma (PRP) injections of each tendon and the labrum in the left shoulder (a single session, under ultrasound guidance) in June, and then had these areas and the AC joint on the right done in July. I primarily kicked most of the summer and did typical rotator cuff physical therapy. I swam fly in a meet at the end of August and started back to usual training in September. I was able to swim 10 events in a 2 day SCM meet (someone dared me to --- I'm usually sane) a few weeks ago, including the 50, 100, and 200 fly. I never get pain now in my right shoulder, but I still get some muscular pain (trigger points) around the scapula on the left if I try to do too much fly on consecutive days. I'm learning my limits, but considering the extent of my rotator cuff pathology, I'm pretty amazed I've avoided surgery, can train, and swim fly. There's no great clinical trial evidence yet that PRP works, but I'm pretty certain I wouldn't be as pain free and able to train and compete without having had it done. It's generally not covered by insurance, and I sank about $2500 into having it done, but I'm glad I did.
  • For all you flyers out there...here is my meet swims from today fly-extravaganza! Crazy/Psycho/!@#$ whatever... I had fun with it. Sunday, Jan, 23, 2011 Meet Results from Flyapalooza Posted January 23rd, 2011 at 05:13 PM by jaadams1 My meet felt really good overall. Home meet at Wenatchee, had about 55 people there, but was well spaced out to give everyone plenty of rest (almost) almost... For being sick most of the week, I really swam quite well. 200 Free Relay here - just swam a 50 (26 sec. or so) moderate speed (relays in our area are of no major importance other than scoring points toward the cumulative LMSC scoring champs for the duration of the season, so our home meet usually gets lots of points. 200 Fly - 2:07.71 = This is the fastest I've gone since college days, and I finally got my age group LMSC record that I've been stalking for a while. The computer had a problem and wasn't able to get the splits posted on results, but I was told I went out in a 1:00 for the first 100. It felt really strong, and after finishing I gave the big fist pump in the air. :) I think I beat all the 200 free entries later in the meet with my time also. :banana::banana::banana: 200 Medley Relay - 50 Fly (25.7) 100 Fly - 57.39 = Also, the fastest I've done in Masters...someone said I was out in a 26.7 at the 50, so I guess it was 30.6 coming home...not bad, wanted to see a 56 though. :) 200 Mixed Medley Relay - 50 Fly (nice and easy 15 meter dolphins off the walls both ways) 50 Fly - 26.19 = This one was tough to get going fast enough over such a short distance. At least I beat the 50 split of my 100 earlier. I also swam it neck and neck with Lincoln Djang, and it came down to a fingernail at the end where I was 2nd overall, but still a good swim. 100 Free - 56.27 = This was just a throwaway swim for me. It was a few minutes after the 50 fly, and I wasn't cooled down enough, so just swam it easy. Finally the 500 FLY - 6:11.74 = I was 2:20 at the 200 point. This was a really good swim, much easier than the 100 Free was...YES, I SAID EASIER THAN 100 FREE!!! I know you think I'm crazy, but I just settled into a pace and kept it going. Swam 3 strokes w/ breaths, 1 stroke head down. I only did 2 hand touches on the first 25, and the finish, and this was more so I could come into the walls with a double breath on the turns. BIG help. I ended up getting 2nd overall in the event to a girl going a 6:10. I was trying to run her down the last 100 since for some reason I was full of energy (not sure from where), but she accelerated also so as to not get beat by someone doing fly!!! Going to sleep well soon. :bed:
  • If you want to race the 100 fly or 200 fly, then you need to swim that distance in practice. Broken swims are nice, but no substitute for swimming that distance contiuous often in practice.
  • www.youtube.com/watch I'm getting an error message (malformed URL) when I try clicking the link. What's the title of video so I can search it on YouTube?