200 Breaststroke time

You're relaxing too much on the third 50. Gotta keep the pressure on and try to descend from the 2nd 50 to the last 50. Thanks Jim Think maybe I'm subconsciously gearing up for the big push? Should I take first 50 out a bit harder?

Thanks Jim Think maybe I'm subconsciously gearing up for the big push? Should I take first 50 out a bit harder? well....depends, how are you feeling at the 100, 150 mark? Do you still feel like you have a lot left, or are you pretty worn out? What are your hundred times like?

well....depends, how are you feeling at the 100, 150 mark? Do you still feel like you have a lot left, or are you pretty worn out? What are your hundred times like? Well I haven't done a good 100 yeat this year. My best is 1:18...which is roughly I nearly took out the first 100 of the 200. Here are the 100 Splits: 1 37.69 (37.69) 2 1:18.82 (41.13) Swimming 100 on Sunday and I am planning to go hard from the start and see what I can do!

Well I haven't done a good 100 yeat this year. My best is 1:18...which is roughly I nearly took out the first 100 of the 200. Here are the 100 Splits: 1 37.69 (37.69) 2 1:18.82 (41.13) Swimming 100 on Sunday and I am planning to go hard from the start and see what I can do! That is right on with your 100 splits, which really means you should be going faster in that 100, or your meant to be a 200 swimmer. Your biggest area of improvement is that 3rd 50..you let off way too much I think. your 3rd and 4th 50 should be split evenly. I think you just relaxed too much instead of really going after it on the back half of your race. But I never throw out the idea of going out fast either, but def try to get that thrid 50 split closer to a 42 high.

Thanks to both. Sunday's 100 will be interesting. I didn't swim any 200 BR in practice at all, up to the meet, times have been falling due to fitness/efficiency. I think I'm nearing the point where I have to practice making those "race" decisions to optimize everything, which is what Fort said when we discussed it.

Stud, as someone who has similar issues on the 3rd 50 for the 200, I would recommend that you really focus on keeping your stroke strong on the 3rd 50. If you do that, you will carry more speed thru that 50. Easy speed is the goal. Yeah, when I looked at the old splits it seems pretty obvious that I have a 200 Pattern that I need to fix. I'm doing the 200 FR this weekend too. I'll see how that splits out. I'll try to adopt the 200 BR model I want on that race.

Or just drop the 200 altogether...Thats my goal! :bump:

Or just drop the 200 altogether...Thats my goal! :bump: haha I used to semi-dread the event but it hasn't hurt enough... so I know I'm not getting it right!

"Do or do not; there is no "try". Attitude, dude. Speak what you want. Say it: I WILL ADOPT THE 200 BREASTSTROKE RACE MODEL I WANT! Repeat... Almost sounds like my previous college coach...and my mom...weird how these things aren't just made up by some crazy people, maybe there is some truth to the positive mental attitude.

Rich,plan on something to focus on in that 3rd 50.I like to focus on my pull the 3rd 50 and my kick the 4th.If I don't have a focus I tend to slow the 3rd 50 also. I almost never do regular 200 BRs in practice as I can't swim them race pace and I don't want to teach my body to swim slowly.I do mostly 100s at 200 pace.I do swim 200s dolphin kick/BR pull for endurance.I like to swim them either go out at 200 pace and try to hold it as long as possible or negative split.When I was younger and dumber I'd occasionally swim 200 BR in practice where I sprint the 1st 50 all out and then just try to hold the stroke together.The idea was to know that if I went out too hard I could still do OK.