Arm recovery/stroke question

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i have an important question , how can i get my arm recovery/stroke to get faste.r(increase arm speed). I go 23.19 in the 50 free, and i recently went 27.28 in LCM but my arm speed is veryy slow.... any tips ? i would like for my arms to go as fast as cesar cielo or nathan adrians.
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    im 5'7 , my mom is 5'7 dad is 5'11.. my vertical is high( i dont know what exactly) but i can almost dunk, and grab rim with two hands.
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    i have an important question , how can i get my arm recovery/stroke to get faste.r(increase arm speed). I go 23.19 in the 50 free, and i recently went 27.28 in LCM but my arm speed is veryy slow.... any tips ? i would like for my arms to go as fast as cesar cielo or nathan adrians. Be careful about just adding to your turnover rate. When I see people concerned with only armspeed/stroke rate they tend to shorten their stroke to compensate. (I'm a victim of this myself too). Make sure while you're increasing stroke rate, you're also working harder to keep your stroke distance as long as possible, otherwise you'll trade arm speed for distance and net gain will be zero. As far as learning how to do this faster. I always liked the closed fist sprint for working on fast turnover. It helps you to get used to that stroke rate, breathing, body roll, kicking, etc without having to apply the force of sprinting. Also work on buildup swims. Start slow and work your stroke rate up to the maximum on each swim. Keep your mind focused more on keeping your stroke consistent as you ramp up the stroke rate. If you only concentrate on that rate itself, as I said earlier its very easy to shorten up the stroke on accident. Also, with a crazy high stroke rate your movements can become more violent and uncontrolled. This can highlight problems with your stroke and/or cause injury if you are currently doing something wrong. I've been working on this same thing this year, and I realized I was sweeping one arm out too wide on the single breath in my 50... not before tweaking my shoulder though. Its such a subtle thing, but it only takes one really wrong violent movement to cause an injury.
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    i have an important question , how can i get my arm recovery/stroke to get faste.r(increase arm speed). I go 23.19 in the 50 free, and i recently went 27.28 in LCM but my arm speed is veryy slow.... any tips ? i would like for my arms to go as fast as cesar cielo or nathan adrians. Yes I see that from your username. First, you have to realize that your goal is not to move your arms faster. Your goal is to swim faster. Don't worry about any stroke rate other than the one that you are going to use to be fast and efficient. If you think your arm speed is slow, that might mean you are gliding too much or pulling too far back, but I can't really say that for sure unless I see a video. When I was in high school, I had a 25-second 50-yard free until my coach told me not to pull my arm all the way to my side. My turnover got faster and I suddenly dropped about a second. It could be something as simple as that, or maybe not. Or, maybe you have a good feel for the water, but you have a lack of strength. That's also something I would need more information about. How old are you? Do you do strength training? What are some of your strength numbers? Having slow turnover from poor strength could also just mean that you are more suited for distance events. Distance swimmers produce less peak power, but they are able to maintain their power for a longer period of time than sprinters.
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    thanks and the thing is that i developed it in almost 2 months, beginning of the school year i was only touching the bottom of the rim, and then out of no where i was able to grab onto it
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    i have an important question , how can i get my arm recovery/stroke to get faste.r(increase arm speed). I go 23.19 in the 50 free, and i recently went 27.28 in LCM but my arm speed is veryy slow.... any tips ? i would like for my arms to go as fast as cesar cielo or nathan adrians. If it's your quest (for what it's worth, I think it's a legitimate one), then one good way of increasing the rate is first to at least be aware of it. Two ways... Either you use a wetronome device which will give you your target stroke rate. You set it to 90SPM, it beeps 90 times per minute. http://www.wetronome.com/ The other way is to use some computer which will compute both stroke lengths and rate for you. In this case, the guizmo won't beep at all. Instead, it allows you to actually see what your rate was after a set. www.finisinc.com/.../swimsense.html
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    jazz hands i think you may be right about me pulling all the way through, im going to try to post the video of my 50 LCM freestyle within the next two days . thanks for all the help thus far though