Arm recovery/stroke question

and im 16 years old, 145 , if you mean strength numbers by lifing weights i go to the weight room alot but havent went in almost a month. i bench 200 lbs (max), but i do sets of 175, and 180. i do dumbells curls with 35 lbs ( sometimes 40lbs) Benching and curling, of course :) Work on squats, deadlifts, pull-ups, and dips. That will help your sprinting speed regardless of any technique issues.

Build a great base. Don't worry about the 50 just yet, have an awesome 200 & 500, you can go down to shorter events when you're older. That foundation will help you finish 50's & 100's faster when you're older and stronger. Get the conditioning, endurance & technique then add strength when you're 18, 19, 20 & on. There's zero evidence that this is actually true.

Jazz, We're just going to differ on this point. Alot of swimmers trained for everything and did longer events when they were younger. Jesse Vasallo still has the 13 14 boys 1500 m free record and he wound up breaking WRs in the 200 IM Tom Jager sometimes swam the 1650 when he was 13 14 & maybe 15 16 John Smith's son Clark, who's now 16 went 20.9 in the 50, 48.5 in the 100 fly, 4:32 in the 500 & 9:10 in the 1000. Missy Franklin can swim anything. so could Tracy Caulkins, she broke several WR's & American Records in every stroke. Jazz, my guess is at some point in your life you probably did some longer harder training which to this day enables you to lift and do a few short sprints for practice and still go fairly fast. It doesn't hurt to train hard and it helps to be good in many events. There aren't any short cuts. Ande Short cuts? What about training specifically for what you want to get good at? Suppose it was customary for swimmers to all train on unicycles. Everybody does it. Coaches all believe in building a unicycle base for swimming. All of the swimmers you listed, in this alternate reality, would have extensive background in unicycle training. Guys, did you know that Tom Jager's first nationals cut was in a unicycle race? Would you then suggest that skipping the unicycle training is looking for a non-existent short cut around all of the hard unicycle work that all fast swimmers obviously need to do?

Your unicycle point is silly. So is everything you are saying. You have no evidence and no logic, just a bunch of crap that coaches have been asserting (with no evidence) for decades. Brian, what do you need to do to go faster? Do you even realize how condescending you sound when you do this?

Work on squats, deadlifts, pull-ups, and dips. That will help your sprinting speed regardless of any technique issues. Agreed... the "man" excercises i.e. biceps and bench are only going to help sprinting a tiny bit. I substitute pullups and dips with tricep pushdowns, seated close-grip rows, and close-grip pulldowns. I do a LOT of the latter two because I feel they are the same direct movement my arms are making for sprint crawl. ( I feel there is more value there for me because I can work explosiveness on the weight machine whereas I cannot on pullups or dips. When you're a fata$$ like me, pullups and dips are a potential cause for injury because it is just too much weight. ) Just as a side note to the weight training... don't ignore the stabilizer muscles also. Its far less thrilling to do external shoulder rotations with 5lb dumbells than 250lbs on the bench, but its important nonetheless.

im 5'7 , but im not a 200 swimmer, or 500, my 200 is 1:53, My hundred is 49.83, and my 100 fly is 55.86. can i see the link for cesar cielo underwater swim with fins

im 5'7 , but im not a 200 swimmer, or 500, my 200 is 1:53, My hundred is 49.83, and my 100 fly is 55.86. can i see the link for cesar cielo underwater swim with fins If you are 16, then don't say you "aren't a 200/500 swimmer" You don't know really what you are at 16. You may find that by not limiting yourself to the 50 or even the 100 that you excel in other events as well. If you go :23 in the 50 and :49 in the 100, that right now you are better in the 100. Train and explore all the events, like Ande suggested. As you get older and your body changes, you may find you become better in different events but if you limit yourself to the 50/100 free and fly, then you are limiting your chances at enjoying a wide range of swimming events.

I am not certain that "pulling all the way through" is conducive to top speed. My impression, possibly incorrect, is that most top sprinters are more focused on the front quadrant, where there is more power, than a good finish. They might sacrifice some DPS, hand exiting a little earlier, in order to get a higher stroke rate. That's correct. You have to let go at the hip. You're probably doing it in middle distance freestyle as well, without thinking about it. It's not necessarily a DPS sacrifice, either. When you spend time extending your arm at your side, you are producing less power than the middle segment of the stroke, because the lats are no longer involved. So you're spending time without producing much propulsion, and then spending more time getting the arm back forward out of that awkward position. In everybody's freestyle stroke there's a gap between the impulses from the left and right arms. If you waste time in the arm stroke, that gap gets bigger, and you spend more time losing speed due to drag. This can cause a decrease in DPS.

im 5'7 , but im not a 200 swimmer, or 500, my 200 is 1:53, My hundred is 49.83, and my 100 fly is 55.86. can i see the link for cesar cielo underwater swim with fins Sorry man, but you're not a natural sprinter if you're going under 50.0 and over 23.0.

That's a remarkable vertical leap.