The Butterfly Lane

The three most common approaches to distance fly that I've seen are three-kick, one-kick, and geezer. The one-kick style involves a longer glide than three-kick. Geezer fly is where the hands barely (if ever) break the surface of the water. Don't forget butterfrog!

Don't forget butterfrog! ahem...."the butterfly lane" :bolt:

Here's a video showing Ye Shiwen using a one-kick butterfly in the opening leg of her 400IM WR in London. The best underwater shot is at about the 40 second point of the video. www.nbcolympics.com/.../highlights-ye-sets-wr-beisel-wins-silver-in-400-im-468291.html Ye doesn't really bother with the kick during her armpull. Also, she comes pretty upright during the pull, and takes a breath each time. The kick during her arm recovery is pronounced, and sends her vaulting forward for a moment of "subaqueous flying." She finishes the butterfly leg slightly behind her competition, but probably with a lot less upper leg burn and aerobic debt. She then finished this race with a screaming sub-minute freestyle leg.

This is how another forumite, Swimaousar, does his 200 fly. Well,something similiar to this style Swimosaur swam an awesome 200 Butterglide at St. Nick's! :applaud:

The 3-beat fly kick. I kick that (no pun) one too. I insert an extra kick when arms are forward in the water. I still kick arms out and when they enter just with a pause to allow an extra kick. Is that (no pun) the typical approach to DPS fly ?

Sore left shoulder , just below top during fly has now become sore during fly. It's not rotator cuff - been to doc - rest helps, but it's still sore?

The 3-beat fly kick. I kick that (no pun) one too. I insert an extra kick when arms are forward in the water. I still kick arms out and when they enter just with a pause to allow an extra kick. Is that (no pun) the typical approach to DPS fly ? The three most common approaches to distance fly that I've seen are three-kick, one-kick, and geezer. The one-kick style involves a longer glide than three-kick. Geezer fly is where the hands barely (if ever) break the surface of the water. :afraid: Officials at smaller meets usually let it go, but you will get DQ'd at Nationals if you swim geezer fly and don't break the surface. This is how another forumite, Swimaousar, does his 200 fly. Well,something similiar to this style Yep, I learned the three-kick style from Swimosaur and from watching videos of Ida Marko-Varga, who actually does the one-kick style, though it doesn't look that way on video.

Thanks for the explanation That Guy. I never thought of doing three kicks per stroke. I have been using one kick for butterglide. Now I have something else to experiment with. Thanks for the tip!

Distance Per Stroke. When I do DPS fly I take 3 kicks per stroke instead of the usual 2. It's slower, but I can swim fly much longer that way. This is how another forumite, Swimaousar, does his 200 fly. Well,something similiar to this style

Well folks, I tried to do 1,000 fly today. But I had to catch my breath every 50, so it doesn't yet count. I have been concentrating on weight training in the gym the last few months and my swimming aerobic capacity has apparently dropped. Rats. I will do it by the 31st! Not giving up! Nothing like fly to work those lungs! Trying to make fly a leisurely stroke is a real challenge. Good try Yosemite! Possibly helpful: I found today that changing styles throughout the swim really helped to refresh my muscles and break up the monotony. Saturday TIMED SWIM Elaine's 1000 fly challenge went 13:56 split 6:57 + 6:59 at the 325 mark I started experimenting. I switched to regular fly for 25 yards, and then went back to DPS fly until the I got the urge to switch again. That occurred at the 425 mark, the 525 mark, etc. So it turned into 75 DPS fly + 25 regular fly, repeating. That worked out well for pacing and working my muscles differently, and then when I hit the 950 mark, I just kept doing regular fly to the finish. I even managed to sprint the last 25. stroke counts: 7-8 in DPS mode, 10 elsewhere, except for 9 on the last 25. Masters Minute... or three 200 easy Well, guys, I swam my 1000 today! After driving 25 minutes to the Steve Lundquist Aquatic Center, yesterday, to train with my coach, we both arrived just as they shut down the pool. :sad: There was not enough chlorine; the opposite problem as what we are dealing with at our pool. So, I decided to take the day off from swimming altogether, take advantage of last week's taper for the St. Nick's meet, and swim my 1000 fly today. The video is uploading to YouTube now, but will be available here: http://youtu.be/LrmuVWdeAoI I recommend watching it before you go to bed tonight; it's a perfect natural sleep aid! :bed: :snore: For entertainment value, you can also watch the 3 noodlers bobbing in the water. (Yes, two of these noodlers were the same :censor: who actively sought to ban swimmers from the pool during their classes.) They won their case partially; they get the pool from 9-10AM on M-W-F, but I get to swim during their 10 AM classes and on all other days/times. So, I took great delight in swimming fly for 23:07, during their class. :bliss: Back to the sleep aid- uhhh, video- I do save you about 15 yards; the video stops and writes to the card just as I am on the home stretch after the 975 mark. :bitching: My husband is my witness, though, and you can see I did speed up my stroke towards the end. So, I really did complete 100 yards of fly! :groovy: My splits were: 500- 11:35 1000- 23:07 (11:32) WoooHOOO, I negative split! :ohyeah: And, that was in 84 degree over-chlorinated water. At one point in the swim, I do pause briefly for a quick sip of water- because my mouth was feeling/tasting awful from the chlorine! :eek: Anyway, the swim felt better on the last half than the first half, and I stayed in the pool to complete my regularly scheduled workout (-1000 yards of it) and give a swim lesson. So, now, I can say so long to 2012; mission accomplished. :chug: