Ultra Short Training At Race Pace

Mikey, why are you being so hostile about usrpt? No one is requiring you to use this school of thought. Glenn has had success with this method. Right now, so has Michael Andrews. No one can say for certain what will happen to him in 2 years, 5 years, or longer in regards to his development. He and his family feel this is the best route for him. Why does it matter to the rest of us? If other coaches want to start training this method, that is their decision. No one knows for certain that this won't be the future of swimming. Why would people want to train today like they did 40 years ago or even 20 years ago. Training methods evolve as people look at sports differently. I don't get the hostility towards people like Glenn that are using usrpt. He believes in this method, he is sharing his beliefs, and he hasn't been hostile toward other people's beliefs.

Mikey, why are you being so hostile about usrpt I don't get the hostility towards people like Glenn that are using usrpt. He believes in this method, he is sharing his beliefs, and he hasn't been hostile toward other people's beliefs.I was wondering the same thing. I've read all of this thread and I can't recall anyone posting in such a manner. To this point, the posts in this thread, even the ones citing doubts about using USRPT exclusively as a training method, have been respectful and insightful. I'm not sure why the abrasive, hostile, sarcastic and condescending posts are necessary to make your point.

The wookie- i believe there is better research that states this type of training Is dangerous for childrens development. See jonty skinner lectures etc. So i am slightly angered when this discussion comes up. Sorry if i hurt your feelings. The training 20 years ago was pretty good. Evans, mary t, biondi, barrowman. They all held american and/or world records for 10, 15, 20 years.

Correct Sprint Diva- I misspoke. USRPT is mostly aerobic. Check out the you tube videos. They admit they are not swimming much more than 1500-2000 a workout. No I dont think he is going to swim the 1500 and like I said I dont think he will ever be able to finish off a long course 100 with the best of the world either. I think USRPT can be a great addition to a per iodized training program for 17+ aged swimmers. Younger athletes cant buffer the acids like adults. How many MALE NAG record holders at 12-14 years old in the 50 free have won an olympic medal or even made an olympic team? Somebody give me a number on this. 11-12 NAGs don't seem to be the best indicator of Olympic Success. !3-14 NAGs, on the other hand, are an AMAZING predictor of future success. Why did you lump these ages together? It seems like a very strange thing to do, based on the data.

Rob- Please dont compare running and swimming or any entities of those two sports together. Exercising in water and exercising with the resistive forces that running places on your body dont correlate on any level. You know what type of training Usain Bolt did as a 12 and 13 year old?

Yea Glenn that his is main training method. Really, where did you hear that pile of horse crap? Wait he did a couple of those sets with Salvo and now he uses it to train for the 1500? Yea all 10K gold medalists are now swimming 25s and 50s to train. Now that he swims for Bowman I am sure Bob has got him doing tons of USRPT. I mean that is what Phelps, Vendt, VanderKay, Schmidt and all the other Olympic medalists that Bob coaches use to be successful.

The wookie- i believe there is better research that states this type of training Is dangerous for childrens development. See jonty skinner lectures etc. So i am slightly angered when this discussion comes up. Sorry if i hurt your feelings. The training 20 years ago was pretty good. Evans, mary t, biondi, barrowman. They all held american and/or world records for 10, 15, 20 years. You didn't hurt my feelings. I asked why you were being a turd to people like Glenn that have found success with this method and were sharing the excitement and results.

The wookie- i believe there is better research that states this type of training Is dangerous for childrens development. See jonty skinner lectures etc. So i am slightly angered when this discussion comes up. Sorry if i hurt your feelings. The training 20 years ago was pretty good. Evans, mary t, biondi, barrowman. They all held american and/or world records for 10, 15, 20 years. I think the reason Rushall would disagree with Skinner is that: 1. Rushall and Skinner both think technique is most important for children 2. But Rushall thinks technique can best be learned at fast speeds while Skinner thinks technique can best be obtained at slow speeds that will later (years later) transfer to high speeds. Point 2 is where the debate is (not in my mind as I believe what Rushall says about this).

Is USRP training used as much in Europe and other parts, or is it mostly in the US and north?

This month's Swimming World has some interesting stuff on USRPT. First there is an article on Michael Andrew.In the "How They Train"part it was a workout from 2 days before his record in the 100 fly. 150 warm up,then 20X25 fly goal time 11.70 with 15 sec rest.He had no fails but stopped at 20 due to the up coming meet.Next he did 15 min "rest"working on starts and transitions. Then he did 25s BR with a target time of 13.50.He had 2 fails in a row at 15 and stopped. After a warm down he did 4X25 overspeed off the blocks with"as much rest as he wanted"and was finished. They also had an article on USRPT which was reasonable balanced with a good amount from Rushall and comments from coaches that were mostly either "we do some of that" or"we need more people using it before we'll try it on our swimmers."