Increasing turnover

I will try to respond to everything brought up. Tempo trainer: Thank you, I need to finally press the buy now button. I think this is one sure way to know I am picking up my turn over and maintaining it without having someone stand on the side of the pool timing and counting strokes. Short bursts of fast swimming: I added this as a serious part of my training last month. Why do I need to increase turnover: I have always been made fun of for my slow turn over. After a 50 free last November, my wife told me I needed to stop swimming the event, I looked too slow. She has been swimming competitively since she was a little kid and she wasn't joking. I got second in my heat. What is my current stroke rate: I will let you know after I get my tempo trainer. Kick shallower to kick faster: That is a good idea, I will have to see if I can pull it off. Right now when I start kicking faster, I start kicking harder, but developing more fine control of my kick should be beneficial. Freestyle pull with dolphin kick: Quick, I think you are trying to drown me. I will give it a shot, but freeway speed is not how I would describe anything I pair with dolphin kick. Oh no, ehoch is trying to drown me too... Several people seem concerned that I am working on my turnover. It is something I need to work on. It is a weak part of my swimming, but I promise not to forget about DPS and kick.

Amen, Ande. My first post asked basically the same question. After applying your prior suggestions and reading your tips, I'm achieving great results. The obvious: "move your arms faster, but maintain feel for the water" Instead of focusing on minimizing the number of strokes/lap, I've found a balance between increased stroke rate and power, which has had a profound effect on my overall times and general feeling in the water. Still a work in progress. somewhat obvious "don't pause out front" Getting better by the day. somewhat obvious "get stronger" After going heavier with the weights, my power per stroke has greatly improved. somewhat obvious "improve your kick" I always hated kick sets but getting much faster with greater endurance. My leg muscles are looking ripped, which is probably a good thing. subtle: "improve your head & body position" Still working on better head and body position, but so far has made a big difference. Accordingly, I discovered that I my breathing was terrible. When I focused on fully expelling air underwater and taking deep fresh breaths, my muscles felt terrific. How: Do bursts short very fast swimming Will do. Thanks!

Although the kid on the clip is extraordinary talented (1:53 over 200m age 15), when I first approached him to do the clip, he had never performed this drill before (matter of fact, I invented this drill for myself. Other coaches have probably invented this before but it is not well documented). I am sorry - I must be missing something. You "invented" the one arm free drill with the resting arm staying at the side ???

I am sorry - I must be missing something. You "invented" the one arm free drill with the resting arm staying at the side ??? Nop, I invented the 0arm drill though (Full Stroke without any arm). I heard that there was another coach somewhere in the US who is also using this drill, but I failed to find any documentation (written or video) on it. And again, I am sure that several other coaches have invented it. We all face the same challenges, it is only logical to end up finding the same solutions. YouTube - Free Style 0 arm drill That drill can solve a whole bunch of issues, covers most level of swimmers. Newbies learn how to breathe correctly, sprinters learn to properly time their 6beat clock, flat swimmers learn to better rotate etc......... And, like I said, it can easily be implemented in a bunch of sets since it doesn't involve using a kick board. My favorite progression is 25m of this drill, 25m 1 arm, 25m the other and 25m sprint. Myself, I remember having done 1kilo/1kilo/1kilo/1kilo. After this, rotation was sorted out. Here's the progression itself YouTube - Free Style 0 arm to 1 arm to Full Stroke progression Again, the execution isn't perfect but it gives you an idea. One thing I found interesting with this kid, is that he naturally added a little scull twist with the resting arm, that can be used to improve the timing between push of one arm relative to catch of the other arm.

Why do I need to increase turnover: I have always been made fun of for my slow turn over. After a 50 free last November, my wife told me I needed to stop swimming the event, I looked too slow. She has been swimming competitively since she was a little kid and she wasn't joking. I got second in my heat. All right, now I see. Do you think your kick/stroke pattern is a true 6Beat kick or is there a possibility that you actually end up over kicking? During the full stroke execution I mean? Because if you are indeed using a 6Beat kick pattern, then it is either of the following two things: Your kicking rate is too slow, or it is being slowed down by your pulling action. If you are indeed overkicking then you probably found your problem. In this case I'd add the 6beatkick to 1 arm progression to the list of drill, putting emphasis on the respect of the 6beat clock. YouTube - Freestyle 6beat kicking to 1arm progression Note how the kid on the clip is catching very early, almost immediately after the arm entry? This is because not having the other arm to help, this drill forces him to do so in order to lessen the dead spot in propulsion. This is where this drill comes in handy, that combined with the opportunity to properly time the stroke kick relative to pull (6beat). Note also that the first part is just like one arm but without any arm. Body roll kick breathing, all the same. Say you manage to master it (it's not easy I'm telling you) then if you can 6Beat/Body roll fast enough this becomes your new turnover given that your pulling action doesn't slow down this 6tick clock. The worst cases on earth in term of turnover rate can sometimes add the fist pulling as a drill. Full stroke 6beat while pulling with fists instead of open hands. It's like a kick in the butt, a wakeup call with a full bucket of icy water.

I'll have to try those one arm and fist drill's. When I watch videos from 10 years ago it looks to me sprinting has changed considerably, namely turnover. Like in the Popov days. When they sprinted back then, it looks like the style doesn't change much from longer races. But when I watch the resent sprinting it looks like it's a totally different style than longer races altogether. Is this true?

Wow, that kid makes the one-arm freestyle drill look easy. I feel like I am about to drown when I do it. Thanks for explaining the turnover aspect of the drill, SolarEnergy. I never knew that... thought it was merely a body rotation type drill. Sigh, guess I will have to give it another try.

video yourself swimming freestyle at different stroke rates it helps to actually see yourself swim Seems many people recommend using a Tempo Trainer

Do not too concerned without putting the whole stroke in context.

"Too many swimmers focus on pushing their hand back at the end of the stroke, which just delays getting it back to the power position. First practice I attended (last Saturday) the coach took time watching my me. He said my hands crossover (bad), and that may hand's aren't pushing back far enough (O K). I paid attention to the first correction (crossover) but kinda dismissed the "hand's aren't pushing back far enough" knowing it was obsolete - good thing. I look at turnover as if it was a gear, and the gear your in is effective leverage. You can decrease your leaverage to increase spm and not go faster. Or you can increase the horsepower (stated above) while keeping the leverage and then go faster. But for me, I'm still learning the basics so I can't put any power to use yet - lol. I saw a video of Klim and Popov. By the 25M mark on the rope klim had almost one stroke on Popov but Klim was slowly fading.