Michael Phelps and a bong? Is there any truth to this?

We waited 2 days for this comeback...?!?!?! Stud...not all of us are skilled in the english language as you. Some people are doing the best they can with their limited english and mental skills. So, please quit mocking the handicapped, like those that weren't born with the queen's english.

The fact that geek and swimstud kept on bringing my ethnicity into the equation (talking about "my America" and "their America", which alludes to a discussion from last summer in which ethnicity was an important issue).... Dude, you called it your America, which is ain't. It ain't mine or yours, it's our America. Perhaps you meant..."In The America that I love" vs. "My America." Either way it is you that keeps bringing race into it. Me mocking "your America" is nothing to do with where you hail from. You write in Spanish on here, I don't understand it, so I'll answer "Que?" Whoa whoa WHOA. We waited 2 days for this comeback...?!?!?!

:rofl::rofl: Sounds like something I would hear around here. Pretty darn good, wookiee. Thank You...Thank You. I grew-up with relatives that are or have been influenced by true mountain people...from the hills of upper east tennessee. So, it is real easy for me to accomdate madam fortress with my redneck charm. As Jeff Foxworthy says " being a redneck is a glorious loss of satification. And everyone has a bit of neck in them and I is one" Elise, you would like this quote. When I lived in D.C. there was a eatery called "The Dixie Grill" On the front of the shirt, it had a pocket with a picture of the battle flag of the south, with the resturant name underneath. On the back, it had a slogan... "Southern Born...Southern Breed and when I am gone, I'll be Southern dead." I loved that shirt, still wish I hadn't of worn it out. The best part...it was right across the street from Ford's Theater...touch of irony.

Good grief, Elise, do you realize the multi quote onslaught you have invited upon yourself with this post?

I said this earlier, and I'll say it again: Fried chicken AND waffles TOGETHER on the same plate at the same time = African-American culture. There's a restaurant chain built on this theme: Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles. The fact that geek and swimstud kept on bringing my ethnicity into the equation (talking about "my America" and "their America", which alludes to a discussion from last summer in which ethnicity was an important issue), alluding to it constantly and then outright, leads me to question their ability to look at me as a person rather than "that Hispanic guy". The history of chicken and waffles is detailed at the Benny's Home Cooked website. As I said before, African-American culture has influenced Southern culture, but as discussed below, the dish is viewed as Southern. Chicken &Waffles According to an article titled "Serving up chicken and waffles," Los Angeles Business Journal, September 22, 1997 (p.1): "As unusual as it might seem, the marriage of chicken and waffles actually has deep roots. Thomas Jefferson brought a waffle iron back from France in the 1790s and the combination began appearing in cookbooks shortly thereafter. The pairing was enthusiastically embraced by African Americans in the South. For a people whose cuisine was based almost entirely on the scraps left behind by landowners and plantation families, poultry was a rare delicacy; in a flapjack culture, waffles were similarly exotic. As a result, chicken and waffles for decades has been a special-occasion meal in African American families, often supplying a hearty Sunday morning meal before a long day in church..." It is interesting to note that this combination and/or recipe does not appear in What Mrs. Fisher Knows About Old Southern Cooking, Abby Fisher, 1881. Mrs. Fisher was a former slave and her book is generally considered the first cookbook written by an African-American. These foods appear (but not together) in Mrs. Porter's Southern Cookery Book, Mrs. Porter, 1871. Wells Restaurant in Harlem, New York City is generally regarded as the home of chicken and waffles. This restaurant opened in 1938 and was a very popular during the Harlem Renaissance. "No appetites are safe from the magnificent Southern Creole cuisine when visiting Wells restaurant, located uptown in the Big Apple. Famous for more than their chicken and waffles, Wells entertains customers with Caribbean flair and a frenzy of live music. Harlem hasn't been the same since Wells opened in May 1938. The owner, Elizabeth Wells, is determined to bring people a humble, homey atmosphere with exciting home-style cooking, but with a twist of island flavor and a lot of fun. Joseph T. Wells, the late husband of Wells, had a record of cooking techniques in the mix. Working as a waiter and manager of a restaurant in Florida, Joseph took his craft to New York during the late 1920s. It was inevitable for the young entrepreneur to start his business and, by the spring of 1938, the restaurant bearing his name opened its doors. Elizabeth Wells entered the picture later. They married in 1966, even though she had joined the establishment in 1963. The married couple produced a son named Tommy Wells. With an avalanche of victory for the restaurant, Wells bloomed as one of the greatest hot spots in Harlem, with a bevy of entertainers who dropped in...Wells has been spinning the wheels of the restaurant with tip-top soul food and no regrets...." ---"For 60 Years, Wells has Nourished the Harlem Community," New York Amsterdam News, April 8, 1999 (p.27) The "Wells Home of Chicken and Waffles, Since 1938" logo used in the mid-eighties is available online from the US Patent & Trademark Office. Select trademarks, TESS search, registration #1431599.

This thread is getting more and more interesting! I don't believe a male can fake an orgasm. He can go on and on but eventually it is or is not. Now, depending on who is on the other side of the equation, then you might fake or think you faked. Of course porn stars fake orgasms, they don't love their fellow actors so how could one have an orgasm without loving? hehehe...dang, I can't remember the last time I watched porn, maybe in the 80s?

Sorry to get back to the topic of the thread... :afraid: Elise, great article. I agree. But what also struck me is that what makes our country so great is that everyone can voice their opinion. People can therefore take what they want from what they hear (or understand) and form an opinion for themselves. (cue National Anthem and smiley with an AMERICAN flag, not CANADIAN!). So, IMHO Phelps screwed up, again, and while it doesn't take away from his swimming achievements, it does hurt swimming. It hurts swimming b/c there was a real chance to make it more of a sport here like it is in Australia. "We" could have really built on his achievements and the publicity. I know USMS' numbers have increased a lot in the last year... Anyway, :blah: now back to our regularly scheduled Red Neck-African American-fried chicken-misunderstood-wife beater-Hispanic-offensive banter (in no particular order!) :bliss:

Surprisingly, my life doesn't revolve around a message board. I didn't catch it the first time b/c I dismiss most of what you say anyway. Why is that exactly? If we're having IQ wars, I'm siding with Stud. Or are we back to dismissing people that aren't FINA Top 3 again? And, tell me, is it morally superior to lurk (which you admit to) as opposed to post? I sometimes feel that those that don't work at home and have the good fortune to train with teams delight in criticizing frequent posters. Although it's beyond me why ppl would care how much other ppl post ... unless they're cranky anti-cliquish yuckster stodgies who can't bear to read excess verbiage. Oh, Geek, I didn't mean to dismiss your question. I'd say it's OUR American Idol.

Whoa whoa whoa...you posted on porn stars faking orgasms...how do you know? It's either you're an authority on Porn... Whoa whoa WHOA. If porn isn't fiction, and movies in general aren't fiction, then are you telling me that the ppl of Kalifornia elected as governor a robot sent from the future to destroy the human race? or faking orgasms...so which is it? True story: I have faked an orgasm more than once. I can spot 'em a mile away. :D And let's ask the ladies what would they prefer: somebody who can spot a fake O and alter the game plan in order to satisfy her? Or a naive, clueless doofus? And I'll leave you with the following from my better half: There's nothing in it for me by faking. If I fake, then that means I'm not getting mine. And I'm getting mine.

Carlos - I do think people tend to think of fried chicken as being associated with the South. I said this earlier, and I'll say it again: Fried chicken AND waffles TOGETHER on the same plate at the same time = African-American culture. There's a restaurant chain built on this theme: Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles. The fact that geek and swimstud kept on bringing my ethnicity into the equation (talking about "my America" and "their America", which alludes to a discussion from last summer in which ethnicity was an important issue), alluding to it constantly and then outright, leads me to question their ability to look at me as a person rather than "that Hispanic guy".