Guys, I told you before, the code word is TONED. Not muscle, not bulk, TONED.
Nice try. Toned = Jennifer Anniston. We're talking strength training here.
I'm just back from my doing my 360 pound leg presses. Lifting heavy at least has the advantage of being quicker and leaving more time for core work. Perhaps the cardio burns off some of the bulk you might get anyway?
I don't know about SVDL as the role model either, frankly. Her workouts don't represent what most elite masters do; she's just extraordinarily talented. Most are working out way more than 3x a week to achieve their results. I think Chris Stevenson is more typical. Plus, I would be unhappy only working out 3x a week. I can do "less is more" in the pool, but 4 days of sitting around doing nothing? No thanks. Don't want to sacrifice fitness and I like cross training.
I don't know about SVDL as the role model either, frankly. Her workouts don't represent what most elite masters do; she's just extraordinarily talented. Most are working out way more than 3x a week to achieve their results. I think Chris Stevenson is more typical. Plus, I would be unhappy only working out 3x a week. I can do "less is more" in the pool, but 4 days of sitting around doing nothing? No thanks. Don't want to sacrifice fitness and I like cross training.
Disagree Fort:
- Susan trains like at least a dozen others including myself. If you swam her workouts 3x a week you wouldn't be able to swim "hard" with any decent speed because you would be so wasted. Remember what Rich A said, masters swimmers swim to fast when they swim slow and to slow when they swim fast. A 40+ year old is going to be challenged getting more than 3 days week of really fast workouts in.
- None of us takes 4 days off out of 7, rather in my case its typically alternating swim/lift-cross train day, recovery day, rest day. If I feel really strong i might run the cycle out to 4 or 5 days in a row before i take a rest day...everything is dictated by how I feel...no wasted time in training.
Whatever. You compare us to Lacey and Natalie. But wait, we aren't to put in their kind of yardage. That would be crazy. But wait. We are to train in the weight room like they are. And we'll be as lean as they are and not overly bulky. At 30 and 40 and 50, etc.Uh uh.
I'm not comparing you or anyone else here to anyone, touchy aren't we. I am saying that for those who are interested in training/competing you look at the best and what they do...and you adapt.
Maybe if you came to a few masters meet not only would you be able to quit whining about not having you times recognized by USMS (or wait, you said that wasn't important) you'd see women in their 30's, 40's & 50's that understand this type of thinking/training and do quite well.
Ever met Liz Hobbs...take a look at her times, ever met my wife? She gives Dara a run for he money in the "guns" department, Anna Scott? Kim Crouch? Caroline Krattli? All these women train as I have been describing, are ripped, fast and beautiful.
Hey you, Tall Paul, I'm pretty good at taking advice and am darn decent with the going slow, going fast thing! I don't do super hard core work in the pool more than 3x a week, probably less. I like to do recovery, drill and hypoxic type stuff too. So :thhbbb: What's SVDL's typical workout in the pool?
SVDL is on record as saying she only works out 3x a week and that's "pretty darn good" for a mom. I just don't think 3x a week is representative of WR holders. I ideally prefer 6x a week with some "doubles" for fitness. Yesterday, I did a 30 minute run and a good sprint workout. Today, I did an hour of weights/core and 30 minutes of cycling. Tomorrow, I'm going to my team LC workout for some aerobic work. Etc. I do have a week of scuba and snorkel planned too. :) Am I really training that differently than you, eh? You're swimming, spinning, lifting, running stadium steps, doing yoga. Hmm....
Caroline and Kim and Laura look great! Although I swam right next to Caroline in the 100 back at Nats, where I met her, and I think she's more tall and slim than "ripped." But the "guns" award has to go to AJ Block.
Oooohhhhh, sounds like a 100 free gridge is brewing! I'll be at Portland; I entered 100/200 fly, 200/400 IM, 400 free, and 200 back. 6th event is the 200 IM. Anybody wanna gridge? I might walk up to you before your heat and whisper "secret forum gridge" just to mess with you... :rolleyes:
Regarding female ripped bulkage, my understanding is that the correct code word is "toned." At the gym I swim at, that's the word they use when they advertise a strength training class. Toned = good, ripped = bad, actual difference = nothing.
as a female, i prefer the term "cut". :weightlifter:
Plus, I would be unhappy only working out 3x a week. I can do "less is more" in the pool, but 4 days of sitting around doing nothing? No thanks. Don't want to sacrifice fitness and I like cross training.
I'm with you on that. I like to do some kind of exercise every day. A little bit of lifting, a little bit of swimming. In the summer, maybe some kayaking and biking as well. It's a mental health thing.
Some of us like those GSA's and highly encourage certain others to follow suit
Hey thanks! I think the camera got my good side. I hope it isn't too obvious that I'm sucking in my gut and flexing...
