Dara Torres-Amazing

The thing that sucks for any athlete being accused of drug cheating is nothing can ever prove their innocence. A positive test can prove their guilt, but no amount of negative testing proves their innocence to the naysayers.

Rob - Soviet scientists in the 60s and 70s, I'd be kinda wary of using them for quality references. Maybe there are some East German scientists you could also quote to bolster your assertions.Hey, the East Germans just found a more effective way of injecting testosterone into there female athletes.

From The Associated Press: If people were whispering behind Torres’ back when she was 33, imagine what they might say if he makes it to the Olympics in her 40s? Looking to cut off any rumors before they get started, she went to USA Swimming and asked to be subjected to extra testing, including blood work, in hopes of showing that she’s totally clean. In the past six weeks, Torres has been tested three times. “It’s a pain,” she said, “but it’s worth it for all the naysayers out there. Here are all my drug tests and they’re all negative. Those guys can say what they want, but here are the facts.” Let's drop it now, please. So Jeff the question becomes what is she taking that they can't test for, right?

Let's drop it now, please. C'mon, when has fact ever stopped a good ole beatdown on this forum? Floyd Landis still maintains his innocence despite thermonuclear testoterone levels. Fort is pretty fast, she's on the juice I hear. Stud might be on the dope also, just hasn't gotten the formula right.

From The Associated Press: If people were whispering behind Torres’ back when she was 33, imagine what they might say if he makes it to the Olympics in her 40s? Looking to cut off any rumors before they get started, she went to USA Swimming and asked to be subjected to extra testing, including blood work, in hopes of showing that she’s totally clean. In the past six weeks, Torres has been tested three times. “It’s a pain,” she said, “but it’s worth it for all the naysayers out there. Here are all my drug tests and they’re all negative. Those guys can say what they want, but here are the facts.” Let's drop it now, please.

There's a rather gigantic difference between setting PBs in your 30s and 40s and being top 10 USMS and being top 5 in the world. I would hope she's not doping while breastfeeding but some drugs are not passed along. My wife was always annoyed that alcohol was passed along, but I got another year of a designated driver (almost said DD but figured Stud/Fort would jump all over that with their gutter minds). Rob - Soviet scientists in the 60s and 70s, I'd be kinda wary of using them for quality references. Maybe there are some East German scientists you could also quote to bolster your assertions.

I don't think she is doping. I can't imagine any mother risking the exposure of her baby to drugs. She is still my idol for being amazing and for breastfeeding between events and training for the Olympics 14 months after giving birth! I don't care if she is 20, 30, or 40 that alone is just awesome.

Also I was a much better swimmer when I was preggos. Your limbs are so loose.Soviet researchers in the 60’s and 70’s demonstrated improved athletic capacity in female athletes after giving birth. Some postpartum hormonal thing. I don’t recall if the studies mentioned limber joints as a contributing factor.

I swim with several women that are PRing in the 30s and 40s - lifetime PRs. The two that come to mind both age group and college and were very successful. They both swam for big time college programs and were star swimmers while there. Both are also sprinters and both are constantly in the top 10 for 50s and 100s. They may not have Dara speed but they have great technique, started training smarter, and started lifting more. I also have to believe that she is smart enough to not dope while breastfeeding. Her daughter would have obvious effects as well. I didn't watch the webcast but from what I have heard her technique was superior to the other awesome athletes in that heat.

Tell me something...do you still have this same kind of sympathetic, none questioning trust in other areas of your life...perhaps in political views? Skepticism is a good thing.....personal attacks quite another so lets not blur the line. Hi Paul, Can't talk politics on the forum...But yes I question everything. Ever watch "loose change"? Yeah the torch imagery was a bit much... Breaking out the Dixie cups would have been a better analogy.