Fina Rules

Originally posted by breastroker This is just typical with FINA. Now that Kitijama was allowed to cheat on the underwater pulldown, and by the way beat the american swimmer, then it is obvious that they would allow the rule to be changed. Kitijama's kick would still be illegal if the new rule would be accepted. *** stroke has changed so much! What about the rule to have an underwater camera that woudl have a judge looking at what was going on under the surface. That would definitely have a complete change on how & when swimmers woudl be disqualified. I'm not sure it woudl make it any more clear. When I watch videos of races at the turns, so many bubbles are created, I really can't see too much! Sometimes, I wonder if all of the rule changes are really that effective. Has anyone ever seen many peole do any kind of a flip turn in the *** stroke?

If I had read all of this thread , I would have only one entry, sorry. In European judges & American judges supposedly interpret the back turn rule differently. The problem is the meaning of the word "continuos." With a European judge, Piersol did break the rule. The DQ was going to be let to stand. The reason it was overturned wasn't because it was incorrect but becasue it was submitted in Spanish. DQ's must be submitted in English. If the DQ had been submitted in English, Piersol woudl not have won. Some might argue that this is knit-picking. I don't know.

Originally posted by craiglll@yahoo.com Some might argue that this is knit-picking. But they would be wrong--it's "nitpicking."

Originally posted by gull80 But they would be wrong--it's "nitpicking." I just looked the word up in the Dictionary of American Slang. It is "nit-picking" It orginated from picking louse eggs from your hair. Now it means being overly "picky" It is hyphenated. I always thought that it came from a woman piking at her stitches to correct them when she was knitting. Oddly, "nit" isn't in the OED. I thought that it woudl be but apparently it is too "American."

According to Encarta, nitpicking is not hyphenated.

Does someone have a link to a video of Peirsol's 200 back? I'm relying on memory, which is not terribly reliable. :D My recollection is that, for the turn in question, his last pull was with his arm away from the camera, with his body blocking the view. From the surface camera, it had the appearance of a glide, as you could see his elbow by his side. I believe the underwater camera showed that he was still pulling (from the elbow down) during the supposed "glide". As for the breaststoke, I *don't* know the rules backwards and forwards, and it was obvious how much of a body dolphin Kitijama was doing during the 100s, and 200 prelim. I mean, he pushed off, glide, dolphin kick, glide, pulldown-with-dolphin-kick... The man has his Olympic medals, that's not the point. The question is what (if anything) needs to be changed before the next international meet to handle a similar performance. Stephanie, 23% of Japan's population is over the age of a THOUSAND? I think you are wrong... ;)

shampoo choice is likely to have no bearing on your swimming performance unless you use cement and let it dry but I think we can gather a group of people to test it out ande Originally posted by Peter Cruise Has anybody pointed out to Ande the efficacy of VO2MAX shampoo for latebloomers? It for sure should be a solid swimming tip...

I think she meant 23,000 are over 100 yrs old. supposedly, in the spanish write up byt he judge, I was told, both palms were facing up and he was gliding. I've always wondered if he had only tucked his head would he have been okay. I think that European judges interpret the rule much closer to how Lindsay thought it should be in above thread.

"Kitajima spends more of each stroke cycle in streamline than any male breaststroker ever." Right there is the key to breastroke a powerful kick in streamline position followed by a glide. RIDE THE GLIDE. Impatient breastrokers don't glide enough, they begin their pull too soon and fail maximize their glides. Steve Lundquist trained in Austin in 1984 right before trials. On Steve's breastroke kick, he'd quickly snap his feet back and his legs would finish high and streamlined. I had lunch with Eddie Reese today, he told us to keep our eyes on his breastroker Matt Lowe from Minot ND. Matt was injured and didn't do well at NCAA's. Ande Originally posted by breastroker Dima, Kitajima spends more of each stroke cycle in streamline than any male breaststroker ever. And he has the best ankle snap. So many coaches and swimmers think the catch of the kick is most important. I don't. I feel the finish where the legs acceleration is fastest and then snapping the ankle is more important.

Ande- it is an unfair reference by me to a past poster of emails who focused on late-blooming & VO2 max to the exclusion of all else. For awhile there was little talk of anything that did not get turned upside down to reflect that focus= postings exchanged that eclipsed civility then warnings from admin. then penalty box then it was all over. You're doing a great job with your tips, but believe me, if this was a year or so ago, you wouldn't have been able to stay on topic.