Conditioner for dead hair?

I'll vote for infusium too. I use the shampoo and conditioner designed for chemically treated (bleached, colored, permed) hair. The bottles are "manly" enough but too big. I just transfer some into smaller travel bottles for locker room use.

Secret information: Try using a true castile soap (100% OLIVE oil ONLY) that is "overfatted." (Dr Bronner's Soap is advertised as "castile" but it is NOT!) It will do wonders for your skin and hair. It also removes even the most waterproof sunscreens (e.g. Bullfrog) very gently and thoroughly. True castile soap does not lather all that well, but that does not affect its cleansing and moisturizing powers. Full Disclosure: I actually make (& sell) such a soap, but my output is already completely taken, so I'm not trying to sell you anything. -LBJ

wet the hair for a long time, and then rub in Alberto VO5 hairdressing formula. the problem with conditioning hair with a detangler or something before getting in, is that it will just rinse right out in the pool. The v05 hairdressing formual will not rinse out, but will shampoo out. It is inexpensive, and comes in a tube that isn't feminie at all--so you won't be embarrassed by the packaging. In fact, it's black, with a masculine gold color on it. Also, the cheaper brands of shampoo really are the best for removing chlorine...the reason is that they have more detergent in them, and it's also a little stronger than the more expensive brands. With the V05, you will not have chlorine soak into you hair anymore...and the "cheap" shampoo will remove any that did soak in. Maybe use it once a week. AGain, Alberto V05, extra body, is really good for this--and is only like a dollar. Afterwards though, it is imperitive to condition your hair, as the shampoo can promote some dryness--Pantene is the best drug store brand to buy, and you can purchase the extra moisturizing to get nice soft hair. Pantene has silicone in it, wich is excellent for repairing damage, smoothing the cuticle of the hair to make it shiny. Also, the Pantene bottle is really neutral. It's white, without flowers or any girly stuff on it. It's logo is also more technical looking than other brands. No embarrasement, and terrific hair! ;) Jerrycat

I've had good results using a product called Inner Shampoo, which is available from Life Enhancement at: www.life-enhancement.com/.../product.asp I hadn't realized just how much it was benefiting me until I accidently allowed myself to run out of it and substituted a well-known store brand. I found that my hair had instantly become a mass of tangles, and I had to spend several minutes separating the tangles with my fingers before I could get a comb through it! But as soon as I went back to Inner Shampoo, my hair became its manageable self again. Inner Shampoo takes some getting used to, because it's a non-lathering shampoo, and you comb it into your hair and then rinse with a comb. But it works well!

I've tried using both Ultra Swim and Swimmer's Choice. I think they may actually work as advertised, although I think the Swimmer's Choice is a bit better. But neither is good enough for me to justify the price. But, then, I'm cheap. :) I also see few people using these products. I have found that Ultra Swim and Swimmer's Choice are available as cheap samplers (I found them in a drug store. Shops specializing in swimming or sports equipment might have them, too.) The Ultra Swim had both shampoo and conditioner in one pack, the Swimmer's Choice was just a tube of shampoo. If you can find samplers locally, you can try for relatively little risk. I once saw a guy using a L'Oreal children's swim shampoo, which he claimed to like. If nothing else, it's less expensive than Ultra Swim, and will help you get in touch with your inner child. :D Most of the time, I've used a cheap shampoo and conditioner, or a combination in one like Pert. (Except, actually, I use the just-as-good store equivalent. Like I said, I'm cheap.) These work for me, although I should note that I don't spend hours in the pool every day. But, I found these options good enough in the past when I did swim almost every day, for more than an hour.

I have swam for many years and much to my own disgust I have not found a single really good product to make my hair silky again. The best thing I've got going right now is to make sure my hair is totally wet before I get into the poor and to put a generous amount of conditioner in my hair before I put the cap on. I hate to wear the caps but it really does make a difference! Much luck to you and your quest. :)

As long as you keep your cap on. ;) You can smell (and sometimes taste, bleh!) when conditioner gets into the practice pool.

If you are worried about appearances, you'll have to find a ""manly" container for my well researched product. It's L'Oreal Kids swim and sport shampoo. It comes in a blue container with an orange top. I give it a chance to work while I soap up in the shower. It works -- no more stiff frizzy hair. The best part is that 9oz. costs $2.64 at Target. It's one of those products that's always going on sale. P.S. I never wear a swim cap because I get too hot (my pool is kept warm for kids and seniors) and before finding the kids shampoo, I was beginning to rival Kramer in the hair department. Go for it. ---Carl After reading Tom Ellison's brilliant discussion on VO2Max and hair cair :D , I am wondering what people are using to keep their hair from becoming straw. I did a search of threads, but they were either green hair or dry skin, not quite what I'm looking for. Wearing a cap during practice is impractical. I've been hit in the head a few too many times, so the cap isn't large enough to stay on. :p I'm guessing that most people will recommend UltraSwim or MalibuC (those were stocked at the local Kiefers). What I'm wondering is, are there any good products I would find in the *supermarket*. I saw a lot of products. Unfortunately, the packaging wasn't very, uh, manly.