Kicking without the kick board

I believe that a kick board is a useful device for the *** stroke. With a kick board, you can concentrate on the proper kick without the distraction of breathing and timing. Have you tried breaststroke kicking on your back?

Yes --- off topic with the fly kick on the back really makes you kick up to the surface. I have been doing this drill for fly kick for 25 years

Streamline Dolphin Kicking on your back is good to develop a good up kick for your fly!

BR kick on my back seems to hurt my knees. PS I am not a very good br kicker.

Thanks for all the input! After weighing what everyone had to say, I decided to ditch the kick board. I also discovered an added benefit to ditching the kick board -- my swim bag now has room for more "toys"! :woot:

This thing is really cool and you can do flip turns with it: www.speedousa.com/.../style-7530402

At 70, I need to plan ahead for my knees. If it hurts --- then I back off.

BR kick on my back seems to hurt my knees. PS I am not a very good br kicker. I am a breaststroker and my knees don't like kicking br on my back either... :)

I am a breaststroker and my knees don't like kicking br on my back either... :) I do different things for different reasons: Kicking on my back helps me focus on keeping the extension from my torso to upper legs (not tucking the knees in) and to stretch out the thighs. Kicking without a float on the front is good for working feel and distance per kick. Kicking with a float I find good for 'training' reps - the board creates some resistance and I do a lot more kicks than I would without