2009 USMS Short Course National Championships

In Bob Strand's defense he had pneumonia for two weeks before the Nats and his first day in the water was the first day of the meet. Bob was happy for Allen, I am sure, but keep a little perspective on things losing the 50 *** by a 1/2 second is not "barely" in my world.

I was watching! I tried to congratulate you in person, poolside, but people you already knew had your attention. So now: :cheerleader: (I so do not look like that.) I was disappointed that I met so few people from this forum at the meet. Since it was a home meet, we had lots of rookie swimmers who really needed support, so that took a lot of my time. Plus, I still had normal daily activities to attend to. Even when I met some fellow forumites for beers Friday night, I had to leave fairly early to take my daughters to their karate class.

Now, on to true tales of survival. I can't relate to the 20+ club because I've never experienced it for a fly event. So since I don't know what they went through, I salute these swimmers who finished their 200 flys despite what I can only assume was serious pain. I've been in the piano group many times. When you are already hurting at the 100, you know you are in a world of trouble. The 200 fly LCM can be especially brutal; I believe Ande has a cautionary tale based on personal experience. It is the only event I swim where there can be times where I truly doubt my ability to finish a race.

Pace the race is the best way to go at it!

my tale was from 1981 TAGS (Texas Age Group Championships) swam the 200 fly split it 1:00 1:17 2:17 though a teammate of mine suffered a worse fate in the 200 fl at the 2008 SC Nats in Austin 11 Walker, Paul B 47 TXLA 2:25.00 2:20.52 28.54 1:01.37 (32.83) 1:36.02 (34.65) 2:20.52 (44.50) I've been in the piano group many times. When you are already hurting at the 100, you know you are in a world of trouble. The 200 fly LCM can be especially brutal; I believe Ande has a cautionary tale based on personal experience. It is the only event I swim where there can be times where I truly doubt my ability to finish a race.

I only know of one person who can "sprint" an entire 200 fly and that is Alison Zamanian. The girl, admittedly, does not ever pace anything, she only has one speed, fast. I've known her for 16 years and it's always been this way. I didn't look up her splits from this weekend, but she was unhappy with her 200 fly. At our Pac Champs I think she went 2:09. She was happy with her 100 fly later, 58.8 (I think). I don't know why people gun the first 100, they KNOW what will happen. Any theories on this? **Went back and looked up her splits: 28.08-32.04-34.56-36.65 2:11.32 (I like the 3456 time- how often does that happen?!)

I don't know why people gun the first 100, they KNOW what will happen. Any theories on this? I just think it's hard to swim fly slow. If you try to slow down it just messes up your body position and you end up just as tired as if you swam fast. That's my take, anyway.

Since the first installment of "Piano Chat" seems to have been a success, I'll add another. First, it's time to correct a misdeed I committed - when I looked over the results, I missed Chris Stevenson's 200 fly, which very much deserved to be on the list of forumites who swam well. 2 Stevenson, Chris 44 VMST 1:56.38 1:54.85 (4.51) 25.87 55.17 (29.30) 1:24.76 (29.59) 1:54.85 (30.09) I think we can all agree that that was an awesome swim by Chris there. (And I hope I'm not still missing anyone else!) Now, on to true tales of survival. I can't relate to the 20+ club because I've never experienced it for a fly event. (I did a 1000 free with 21 seconds difference between the 500's in the early Cretaceous era, but that's another story...) So since I don't know what they went through, I salute these swimmers who finished their 200 flys despite what I can only assume was serious pain. This is still only a sampling. There were others at Clovis in this club. Advil, Richard 3:08.00 3:03.95 (20.59) 36.79 1:21.68 (44.89) 2:12.54 (50.86) 3:03.95 (51.41) Morphine, Larry 2:55.00 3:04.06 (22.20) 35.71 1:22.29 (46.58) 2:14.35 (52.06) 3:04.06 (49.71) Tourniquet, Michael 3:07.45 3:22.35 (23.69) 41.35 1:29.33 (47.98) 2:23.79 (54.46) 3:22.35 (58.56)

I only know of one person who can "sprint" an entire 200 fly and that is Alison Zamanian. The girl, admittedly, does not ever pace anything, she only has one speed, fast. I've known her for 16 years and it's always been this way. I didn't look up her splits from this weekend, but she was unhappy with her 200 fly. At our Pac Champs I think she went 2:09. She was happy with her 100 fly later, 58.8 (I think). I don't know why people gun the first 100, they KNOW what will happen. Any theories on this? **Went back and looked up her splits: 28.08-32.04-34.56-36.65 2:11.32 (I like the 3456 time- how often does that happen?!) My theory is that if I go out slow on the first 100, I will go even slower on the second 100. Here are the splits from my 100 and 200 LCM fly at a USA-S meet recently(May 2-3, 09) 100 fly 1:08.67 33.04 35.63 200 fly 2:28.59 32.89 36.59(1:09.44) 38.91 40.20

the best way to swim any 200 stroke is + Breathe often + Easy Speed + fast turns, hard Push offs / skinny streamlines / far glides + light kick saving legs Ideal splitting is easy speed 50 then the next 3 50's should be very close If you go too hard on the 1st & 2nd 50 your 3rd & 4th 50's will get slower TJR, your 100 fly 1:08.67 splits look fine 33.04 35.63 a 2.5 fade is excellent, maybe you didn't go out hard enough your 200 fly splits show you went too hard on the 1st & 2nd 50 so you got slower on the 3rd & 4th 50's, giving you about a 10 second fade when we compare your 1st to 2nd 100's 32.89 36.59 (1:09.44) 38.91 40.20 (1:19.11) ease up, breathe, save your legs