Dara just one the national title in the 100M Freestyle in 54.4 at the ripe old age of 40. Simply Incredible. :applaud: :woot:
If that's not inspiring I don't know what is.
Being a realist is not necessarily associated with being unhappy or sad or bitter! What's wrong with questioning things? Who wants to blithely or blindly accept what others say without independent analysis? No reason to put the brain in storage! And there's really not "proof positive" for virtually anything in life. If you're waiting around for that, you'll be waiting a long time. Of course, George still thinks Clemens and Landis are clean ...
You're right Leslie. I don't think anyone here disagrees that questioning isn't necessarily a bad thing. Questioning Torres' achievements would go something like this in my mind, "Wow, Torres is really doing something unheard of. I certainly hope she's not cheating." But the posts that I object to go something like this, "Wow, Torres is doing something unheard of. Spitz couldn't do it and other extremely talented swimmers couldn't do, so she must be cheating. There is no other way to explain it." The Ben Johnsons, Floyd Landises and Marion Joneses of this world have given me pause when watching a remarkable performance. But I want at least a shred of evidence before I accuse. Otherwise, why watch at all? Again, these are my opinions, but I think there are others who might agree.
And John, McGwire didn't cheat!!!;-)
From the article:
"She said she already has undergone testing that would test anyone - last year hearing the knock of testers at her front door at 7 one morning when she was breastfeeding daughter Tessa."
The potential implications of using some horrible drug and then (possibly) passing it on to her child via breastfeeding are too monstrous to wrap my brain around. I NEED to believe that Ms. Torres wouldn't do something like that and that her boyfriend/partner/love monkey who is the child's father and an M.D. would not stand by and allow it to happen.
Question for our legal types: Suppose, for the sake of curiosity, it is shown that she is guilty of taking a banned or illegal substance of some sort that is passed on via breastmilk. Does this constitute a reason that the authorities (Child Protective Services or some such) could seek to take the child away?
-LBJ
You obviously have read nothing I've ever posted about Title IX or women in sports or the fact I have two daughters. That's a low blow and not even remotely close to what I have said. I could care less if she's a woman or a man, I'd be skeptical either way.
She's not heroic in my definition of the word hero. It's a term tossed about too lightly these days. She has a single minded dedication, both physically and financially, to her goal. She won't be a hero to my daughters, no way. She is potentially inspirational but hero is a big big stretch.
Of course, some called Marion Jones heroic also, go figure. And wasn't Barry Bonds once heroic? How about Roger Clemens and Floyd Landis? Be careful tossing that word around for sports figures.
So, unless you had some kind of moralistic problem with it, what does her being an unwed mother have to do with her being heroic or not? It was a remark that was a total slam for no reason...it had nothing to with your point unless you were using it to judge her.
How old are your daughters? Something tells me eventually you will learn that they will speak for themselves. They may or may not thinks she is....not your choice to decide for them.
Why do you keep referring to druggies to prove your point? There is absolutely NO evidence anywhere that even assumes Dara is! NONE!
Never said he was a sexist...I have read his posts before....just kind of wondering why he brought that up as a point and what it had to do with the subject being discussed.
Heck if anything the fact that she is a mom can be used to support the fact that she is clean.
Would you put that garbage in your system knowing you would pass it directly on to your kid? Not many women would that I know.
You are so gullable, I put on 100 lbs after I was 35 and never used. Although it was not all muscle, probably no muscle.
Now, come on! Bonds gains 50 pounds of muscle after the age of 35 in the Era of Steroids and tests positive for both steroids and amphetamines. Yeah, he's a real hero.
There may be no "proven guilty" with Bonds. He got immunity for testifying and can now only be prosecuted for perjury. Still, I have no problem with concluding he's guilty of using steroids and cheating. And why is expressing an opinion or thought about his guilt a big deal? We're not held to a criminal standard of proof in forming opinions.
Geek may be many things (another 25K swim warrior?) but being a sexist is NOT one of them.
Personally, I think parents need to go easy on the professional athlete as hero and role model.
And by the way, how many pounds do most of us put on as we grow older? I know I am up about 20-30 since 35. And that's without extensive lifting to build bulk.
