Dara just one the national title in the 100M Freestyle in 54.4 at the ripe old age of 40. Simply Incredible. :applaud: :woot:
If that's not inspiring I don't know what is.
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So taking substances that are not banned still makes you a cheater?
so is it cheating if an athlete takes illegal substances but tests often, closely monitoring levels, keeping them below trigger points (where they'd test positive)
I don't know the answer, ask Stud, he manages to keep his estrogen supplement levels just below the illegal limit.
so is it cheating if an athlete takes illegal substances but tests often, closely monitoring levels, keeping them below trigger points (where they'd test positive)
I'm sure there are those who have doping down to a science.
I'm sure you're right. And of course it's cheating. They're taking illegal and/or banned substances. Testing doesn't catch all cheaters. Or else every cyclist in the Tour might have been thrown out. They're cheaters nonetheless.
so is it cheating if an athlete takes illegal substances but tests often, closely monitoring levels, keeping them below trigger points (where they'd test positive)
I'm sure there are those who have doping down to a science.
You'll need more than Yuenglings after I whomp you in the 800. :thhbbb:
Rich, let me know if you'd like me to "phantom enter" the spoiled one in the 400IM. :wave:
There's nothing like a good ole :dedhorse: feeling when you dive in for an 800 :cane:. Could make for a very interesting race between you two :cheerleader:
“Jenny Thompson and Dara Torres, openly revealed their planned consumption of potent cocktails of chemicals with the intention of legally enhancing their performances.”
Would Gatorade count as a potent cocktail of chemicals? Or do I need to add vodka to make it a cocktail? And who would want to be consuming impotent cocktails? And for some reason most of the cocktails I consume seem to have detrimental performance effects; maybe I need to switch to RedBull and Vodka.
So, what Dara appears to have said is that she planned to take legal supplements. How is this cheating?
What exactly is in these "potent cocktails of chemicals?" Or in the 75 pills that Lance is taking? I read somewhere, don't remember where, that Dara had taken creatine. Earlier, you said you considered that "cheating," Rob. If supplements and chemical enhancements are legal, it can't technically be cheating. (Although Olympic athletes cannot take creatine, can they?) Does make you wonder though if swimming success might be ever so partially dependent on being wealthy to afford all the cocktails and the entourage ... For some reason, I find that discouraging. Must be naive.