training for lcm in a scm pool

I would love to swim LCM because I am not good at turns. I am in NY and there doesn't seem to be any LCM meets. In fact there are not that many in the country for masters...what's up with that? Is it because they want to keep part of the pool open for family swims? If you're in the Brewster Area; Brookfield Y in CT opening 50M pool soon.. (as previously posted).

Wish I could be more help, but I have the opposite problem. Our masters team trains LCM all year, but we only swim 1-2 LCM meets a year. We do tons of endurance work, but very little speed work. Until I started swimming with my age-groupers, I used to overswim turns in warm-up and whack my heels on the gutter. OUCH! I highly recommend getting in a LCM pool for at least a few practices. It really is amazing how much longer it is. A real shock to the muscle memory. Good Luck!

Way back, I faced the same situation as you: fresh to masters, training only in scm pool, think I'll enter a LC meet, why this meet looks interesting...USLCNats, hmmm, it can't make that much of a difference and I do have lousy turns (then) so it should be in my favour...NOT. I discovered, through pain, that my nice slow turns in scm were a resting point form - like having training wheels taken off suddenly. So work on your turns, even though you'll do less of them. Plus, train over-distance 75's, 150's, etc.

Last year, I did two LCM , forthe first time. So when I was swimming in the 25 meter pool I did extra laps to ensure I would at least finish. When I got to the meet ( never havent seeing a 50 meter pool). I looked at the pool , and said to my self , where is the end of the pool. But any way I did some laps prior to one of my events ( 1500). As I swam I really enjoyed it. Since I do not know how to flip. But I found it requried more straight swimming tha in a 25 meter pool. DOM. in AZ.:groovy: :bow:

Hi Warren You really need to get to a LCM pool to practice and experience the difference you really miss that turn and you feel the need to stretch out your stroke, any LCM pool I swam in was considerably deeper which seemed to change the feel in the water. And as FlyQueen says: Lots and lots and lots of kicking. good luck

where in ny? asphalt green in nyc trains lcm on the weekends. that is a possibility Rtodd - check out the "meet announcements" thread for the announcement for my team's LCM Terrapin Cup Meet in July. Its a great meet, and what better place than DC to be for the 4th of July! We'll also be hosting the Colonies Zone meet in August. Tuff to make it down to DC on July 4th weekend. Depending on what weekend in August, I could shoot for that one. Do you know what the date is?

I love LCM. As I have said before,when I am training for LCM in a SCY pool I don't push off every other length(turn fast,don't loaf,just don't push off) Also I over swim i.e. 125 for 100s and 75 for 50s.

In the latest issue of USMS Swimmer magazine there's a good article about open water swimming. Among the points which were raised...Terry Laughlin discussed some very interesting differences and distinctions between short course swimming and long course meters. Specifically, he commented on an article by Jonty Skinner...regarding how long course swimmers have an adapted stroke. "A faster more forceful stroke can generate more speed in in short burst but is too taxing for sustained swimming. A high speed high-force stroke may be advantageous in 25-yard pool because top swimmers spend relatively little time swimming. During a minute of short course racing, athletes could spend as little as 43 seconds swimming and 17 seconds "not-swimming", allowing them time to recover from bursts of aggressive stroking. In a 50 meter pool, the swimmer might spend 53 seconds swimming and only 7 seconds "not swimming", necessitating a more economical technique." In my personal experience...after training long course in the summers as a youth...I always perceived the 25 yard pool to be a bathtub when returning to school. The cadence of your long course stroke is much different. Long course to yards translates very well....the other way around is always a challenge. But it can make you a better swimmer.

Hmmm... all this explains why my 50 time inflated radically in the one LCM meet I did. As Peter said, I initially thought that being relieved of the need to turn would be helpful. But darn, the thing felt like an ocean! Okay, I exaggerate, but did feel strange... and about 3/4 of the way through, thinking, "I must be almost done by now," I sneaked a look up from my stroking... and had the rude awakening... shoot, that much left??" Let's just say it wasn't pretty.

Warren, In your LCM race you're going to get to the middle of the pool and wonder, "Where's the freakin wall?" If you swim your LCM 50 like a SCM 50, you could to die bad. Lactatic acid will ooze. Piano's will fall. The 100 is even worse. If you can't find a LCM pool to train in then sprint 75's and 125's. LCM burns, especially breastroke. AJ I have never swam in lcm before but I plan to this summer. What adjustments should I make to training for lcm in a scm pool?