Wanna do 100IM Tips gladly accepted please.

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I'm not too worried about the turning aspects...just a little unsure of what to do at the backstroke to *** turn. Also any good workouts for this? I'm doing 900 free for warm up (0-1650 in 6 weeks) then trey to do another 1500 per workout. I've obviously been hitting *** but want to get some fly and back work in as well as turns--obviously I can always go to the wall and touch then turn but that's inefficient. Is doing a 100 IM then hitting sets of 50 of fly and back or what? I've ordered a couple of books for reference and they should get here shortly. Any thoughts or articles?
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    You'll probably get tips from people a lot more knowledgeable than me, but here are my favorite sprint IM sets: 8x125 IM rotate the 50 through each stroke (so on the first one do 50 fly-25bk-25br-25fr, 2nd one is 25 fly-50bk-25br-25fr, get it?) 12x75 continuous IM (#1 is fl-bk-br, #2 is fr-fl-bk, #3 is br-fr-fl, #4 is bk-br-fr and then you're back to #1) Also, when swimming by myself, instead of a freestyle warmup, I like to do either a 400 or 800 reverse IM (start with free) kick-drill by 25. Good luck! Thanks Feisty...I take it you don't do these back to back...if so kudos I can't hack that! A Bones McCoy type quote: "Dammit Jim, I'm just an old breaststroker not a magician!" The free warm up is my 0-1650 Frontcrawl iin 6 weeks, I'm not bailing on my virtual training partner ~Wren~ on that. Rich
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    you can be on your side in back stroke
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    Glad to see you diversifying a little here, buddy. Variety is the spice of life. Er, swimming.
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    I dont do a cross over unless you are good at it. Warren what's that? sorry for dumbass Q's. This is the problem. I never swam age group, HS or college, and you're all foreigners to me. ;) I have no clue what you guys are talking about half the time. PB, SPL, SDK, SCM, SCY, FSII, LCM, FCM, etc etc
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    Warren what's that? sorry for dumbass Q's. This is the problem. I never swam age group, HS or college, and you're all foreigners to me. ;) I have no clue what you guys are talking about half the time. PB, SPL, SDK, SCM, SCY, FSII, LCM, FCM, etc etc youtube.com/watch thats a cross over turns, its in IM going from back to ***. The rule says you have to touch the wall then flip but not go past verticle which I don't even know what means. I would not sugest it but if your good at it, it is alot faster than a touching and turning around.
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    poolraat offers good advice . . . just do them. There are lots of opportunities to throw a 100 IM in the middle of a workout. I often do a 200 IM in warmup, and will occasionally do a 100 or 200 IM in the middle of a long set or ladder/pyramid. I'm a beginning flyer (never learned it as a kid), and a crummy backstroker, but it's all getting better, which lets me do more in practice, which makes it all better, which . . . you get the idea. Overtraining the distances (i.e. swim 50's of each stroke to get ready for the 100) helped me a lot with my confidence, and I have now successfully (read: not DQ'd) 2 100's in competition. As a bonus, they were a whole lot of fun to swim, probably because my weakest strokes were first, and once those were done I was home free. One caveat: Don't do bad fly. When the stroke falls apart, switch to one arm or something else right away. If an old dog like me can learn a new trick, anyone can. Give it a shot. Fly is going to be the hardest part of this in technique.
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    ". . . at the end of each stroke you need to touch as if you're finishing an individual race in that stroke. 2 hand touch for fly and *** and touch while remaining on the back for the backstroke." I recently saw a high school meet (first one in years, as I am returning to the sport) and observed, to my amazement, IMers going from backstroke to a rollover one stroke out from the wall; that is, they rotated onto their fronts and flipped as if in freestyle, then came off the wall with a breastroke pull. Nobody got DQ'ed. Did I dream this, or what? Has something changed? I too am beginning to train for a 100 IM, mostly because it's fun. I have discovered that I have absolutely no rhythm for speed in breaststroke. Relatively fast fly and free, back not so great, but holy cow, I can't get under 45 in a 50 in breaststroke. I think I remember doing it about ten seconds faster when I was 12. So my secondary question is: how on earth do you get speed in breastroke?
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    So my secondary question is: how on earth do you get speed in breastroke? Leg power and streamline. Get your arms out in front fast, tuck your head down and finish your kick. I try to get the arms out before the thrust of the kick. http://www.breaststroke.info/ is a better reference than I.
  • (in any 100, the 3rd lap is the most evil... with the exception of the 100 fly which just gets worse with each lap). I think you misspelled "better." In the 100 fly, the third lap means you are back to a fifty: the best race EVAR.
  • I think you misspelled "better." In the 100 fly, the third lap means you are back to a fifty: the best race EVAR. Heehee... every other 100 I've ever swum in my life: by the time I take that third turn, I think "Woohoo! A 25 sprint!" In the 100 fly, I took that third turn, started taking strokes, and thought, "Dear God, where is the wall???"