I'm not too worried about the turning aspects...just a little unsure of what to do at the backstroke to *** turn.
Also any good workouts for this?
I'm doing 900 free for warm up (0-1650 in 6 weeks) then trey to do another 1500 per workout.
I've obviously been hitting *** but want to get some fly and back work in as well as turns--obviously I can always go to the wall and touch then turn but that's inefficient.
Is doing a 100 IM then hitting sets of 50 of fly and back or what? I've ordered a couple of books for reference and they should get here shortly.
Any thoughts or articles?
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You'll probably get tips from people a lot more knowledgeable than me, but here are my favorite sprint IM sets:
8x125 IM rotate the 50 through each stroke (so on the first one do 50 fly-25bk-25br-25fr, 2nd one is 25 fly-50bk-25br-25fr, get it?)
12x75 continuous IM (#1 is fl-bk-br, #2 is fr-fl-bk, #3 is br-fr-fl, #4 is bk-br-fr and then you're back to #1)
Also, when swimming by myself, instead of a freestyle warmup, I like to do either a 400 or 800 reverse IM (start with free) kick-drill by 25.
Good luck!
Thanks Feisty...I take it you don't do these back to back...if so kudos I can't hack that!
A Bones McCoy type quote: "Dammit Jim, I'm just an old breaststroker not a magician!"
The free warm up is my 0-1650 Frontcrawl iin 6 weeks, I'm not bailing on my virtual training partner ~Wren~ on that.
Rich
I dont do a cross over unless you are good at it.
Warren what's that? sorry for dumbass Q's. This is the problem. I never swam age group, HS or college, and you're all foreigners to me. ;) I have no clue what you guys are talking about half the time. PB, SPL, SDK, SCM, SCY, FSII, LCM, FCM, etc etc
Warren what's that? sorry for dumbass Q's. This is the problem. I never swam age group, HS or college, and you're all foreigners to me. ;) I have no clue what you guys are talking about half the time. PB, SPL, SDK, SCM, SCY, FSII, LCM, FCM, etc etc
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thats a cross over turns, its in IM going from back to ***. The rule says you have to touch the wall then flip but not go past verticle which I don't even know what means. I would not sugest it but if your good at it, it is alot faster than a touching and turning around.
poolraat offers good advice . . . just do them. There are lots of opportunities to throw a 100 IM in the middle of a workout. I often do a 200 IM in warmup, and will occasionally do a 100 or 200 IM in the middle of a long set or ladder/pyramid. I'm a beginning flyer (never learned it as a kid), and a crummy backstroker, but it's all getting better, which lets me do more in practice, which makes it all better, which . . . you get the idea.
Overtraining the distances (i.e. swim 50's of each stroke to get ready for the 100) helped me a lot with my confidence, and I have now successfully (read: not DQ'd) 2 100's in competition. As a bonus, they were a whole lot of fun to swim, probably because my weakest strokes were first, and once those were done I was home free.
One caveat: Don't do bad fly. When the stroke falls apart, switch to one arm or something else right away.
If an old dog like me can learn a new trick, anyone can. Give it a shot.
Fly is going to be the hardest part of this in technique.
". . . at the end of each stroke you need to touch as if you're finishing an individual race in that stroke. 2 hand touch for fly and *** and touch while remaining on the back for the backstroke."
I recently saw a high school meet (first one in years, as I am returning to the sport) and observed, to my amazement, IMers going from backstroke to a rollover one stroke out from the wall; that is, they rotated onto their fronts and flipped as if in freestyle, then came off the wall with a breastroke pull. Nobody got DQ'ed. Did I dream this, or what? Has something changed?
I too am beginning to train for a 100 IM, mostly because it's fun. I have discovered that I have absolutely no rhythm for speed in breaststroke. Relatively fast fly and free, back not so great, but holy cow, I can't get under 45 in a 50 in breaststroke. I think I remember doing it about ten seconds faster when I was 12.
So my secondary question is: how on earth do you get speed in breastroke?
So my secondary question is: how on earth do you get speed in breastroke?
Leg power and streamline. Get your arms out in front fast, tuck your head down and finish your kick. I try to get the arms out before the thrust of the kick.
http://www.breaststroke.info/ is a better reference than I.
(in any 100, the 3rd lap is the most evil... with the exception of the 100 fly which just gets worse with each lap).
I think you misspelled "better." In the 100 fly, the third lap means you are back to a fifty: the best race EVAR.
I think you misspelled "better." In the 100 fly, the third lap means you are back to a fifty: the best race EVAR.
Heehee... every other 100 I've ever swum in my life: by the time I take that third turn, I think "Woohoo! A 25 sprint!" In the 100 fly, I took that third turn, started taking strokes, and thought, "Dear God, where is the wall???"