Wanna do 100IM Tips gladly accepted please.

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I'm not too worried about the turning aspects...just a little unsure of what to do at the backstroke to *** turn. Also any good workouts for this? I'm doing 900 free for warm up (0-1650 in 6 weeks) then trey to do another 1500 per workout. I've obviously been hitting *** but want to get some fly and back work in as well as turns--obviously I can always go to the wall and touch then turn but that's inefficient. Is doing a 100 IM then hitting sets of 50 of fly and back or what? I've ordered a couple of books for reference and they should get here shortly. Any thoughts or articles?
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    Big Boy.....I look at the breastroke leg of the IM the same as the running leg of a triathalon....something thrown in to appease those "special interest" athletes! Best bumper stick as of late: "people that can't do sports run...people that can't run, run farther" :D LMAO I'll just sit back and wait for this one to erupt!
  • 2) You must have a good breaststroke to win. 3) John Smith says the key to a good 100 IM is the fly-back turn. Nope. It's the back-*** turn. Those of us lucky enough to know how to do the rollover turn gain 1.5 seconds on those who do anything else. And since we know how to do it, we've trained our lungs for the six seconds underwater after more than 25 seconds of fast swimming. #2 To win what exactly? Nationals? :rofl: I guess I agree with that. But I did win the 100 IM at my last meet and I suck at *** (even though I have very flexible ankles). #3 This is very true. I wish I could do the rollover. Haven't really practiced it because I think I need the oxygen. The only person I've seen do it really well about my age is Karlyn and she is, well, Karlyn. Maybe I'll try a few in practice. Just don't want to get DQ'd outta the box trying it at Zones. Thankfully, Karlyn isn't crashing our meet again this year. At least I don't think so ....
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    I say get as much of an underwater pullout as humanly possible on the back to *** turn.....It doesn't really matter exactly how you do the turn IMO (as long as its legal).....the important thing is to make sure you ge enough air sucked into your lungs going into the underwater pullout....If you can make it more than half way down the pool underwater, then you only have to fake your way through about 10-12 yards of actual breasstroke before you go into freestyle......This is why I am ONLY doing 100 IMS from now on (as opposed to 200 IMS and 400 IMS where there's no way around the breaststroke at all!!). Newmastersswimmer p.s. According to FlyQueen's recent posting here, you can't completely "roll over" onto your side when doing a back to *** turn without getting DQ'd....So I guess Rich will be waiting a LONG time then for FlyQueen...LOL!:thhbbb: :rofl: :rofl:
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    don't read books (unless it's the one I wrote) don't roll over bring out your inner animal ande you forgot: don't mess with Texas! Thanks Ande. I have to work mostly on fly the others I'll muscle OKAY. turns will be the trick to winning I know. I have time ahead of Zones to do this
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    Whoa Ande! Normal people's weakest stroke will be breastroke? I resemble that remark! BTW, here's a picture of me doing breastroke...
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    p.s. According to FlyQueen's recent posting here, you can't completely "roll over" onto your side when doing a back to *** turn without getting DQ'd....So I guess Rich will be waiting a LONG time then for FlyQueen...LOL!:thhbbb: :rofl: :rofl: New bet: Loser rolls. I'm in queenie...are you?
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    Paul- obviously the pain in your knee has twisted your mind. Perhaps if you took your head out of the sand, you would beat John at this race. Here is a snap of you just before that race, to illustrate...
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    Actually, Paul, I remember the announcer (was it Mark Gill?) at SCY Nats last spring making some caustic remark about "and now Paul Smith is attempting to swim breaststroke in lane 4" during your IM. Can't remember if it was a 100 or 200. It was pretty funny for us mere mortals to hear, after watching you annihilate records all weekend. Of course, your time was awesome. :) Rich, I agree with all these non-breaststrokers about IM strategy (with the exception of Ande's comment implying that you're not normal if *** isn't your worst stroke in the IM). Take it out as hard as possible. Try to stay as close as possible to everyone on the first two laps. Then pray that your strong stroke will help you survive the evil 3rd lap (in any 100, the 3rd lap is the most evil... with the exception of the 100 fly which just gets worse with each lap). I am going to shock people! No I mean it..I'm bringing a taser! LMAO.
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    Peter.....you must have taken that photo at that meet.....when I was actually at my fighting weight! Being serious for just a minute...so as not to take fire from the Geek...all the workouts/sets are fine....but sprints take race pace practice and none more so then the 100IM....with 3 different turns to be prepared for the loss of tenths adds up quickly...get on the blocks and do race pace work and swim the event at several meets prior to a nationals if you can. Nationals...you flatter me sir. I will have 1 maybe 2 meets before Zones. I do seem to do marginally better in real races. My workout week swill stack thus: Mon. *** Drills Focus Wed. IM Focus Fly, Back and Turns. Free Fri. *** Event Focus. Sprints of all.
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    Evil One, I swam the 200 IM very recently if you will remember. It was Long Course meters and it sucked ! I have no interest in doing that again, and if you remember, I almost didn't get on the blocks the day I did swim it. The 100IM is NOT a build race by any means. It is 4 nuclear war head blast 25s put end-on-end. There is no time to think......no time for strategy and perfect stroke technique. You are either in the race after fly or you are out of the race.... period. Rule 1.).... you MUST be in the lead after backstroke ! Note, the beauty of the 100IM is that breastrokers don't have as much time to catch up given the actual number of strokes taken after the pull out.... and note, breastrokers CAN be beaten on pull-outs by non breastrokers. Rule 2.) The secret to a great 100 IM is ......... The Fly-to-Back turn. You have to nail it! Stay super tight.... put one foot over the other foot when bringing your legs up under your body to create less drag.....drop down on your side deep and quick..... push off rotating on your back with super strong and fast underwater dolphins to crush your 7 foot sasquatch opponents in the lane next to you. I enjoy coming up ahead after this turn. It is one of the few satsifying things left in my life...... (unless I'm swimming next to Jeff Commings when my race strategy is to move over and surf him like Hawaii 5-O). Think "controlled bizerk". Never lose the lead and swim it like 4 X 25s... not a 100. John Smith
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