Anyone else watch The Biggest Loser?

And I'm sure he'd be happy to sell those to you. However, by law supplements do not need to be effective to be sold. Neither Coenzyme Q10 nor glucosamine are of any proven benefit, having been studied in large randomized clinical trials. Likewise, when studied individually, megadoses of vitamins are not helpful and in some cases may be harmful (Vitamins E and C, to name two). The only requirement is that they do not claim to cure any disease. They can sell something that claims to strengthen your heart or improve your vision but a claim to cure cancer is a no no. It is a pretty sad state of affairs because people get taken by these scams every day of the week.

I guess I'll have to jump in on the controversy. So, are there no benefits whatsoever to vegies that are loaded with antioxidants? What about red wine? Doesn't that grape do something great for us beside making us want another glass? Why do all the docs on talk shows praise antioxidants? Wait, I know, they are the new recruits to the food police trying to get us to eat our vegies to keep our weight down so the health companies won't have to fork over more $$$$$. Here's a statement that may blow some people away. And I have my coat of armour on for all the bullets that may come my way: I say NO to sunscreen. After I saw the study the Mayo Clinic did, I threw mine away. Okay, I'm ready for the bullets to fly, see? I have my protective eyewear on.:cool: Donna

I guess I'll have to jump in on the controversy. So, are there no benefits whatsoever to vegies that are loaded with antioxidants? That's not what I said. What I said is that supplementing your diet with antioxidants (like CoQ, Vit E or C) is of no proven benefit. Raising HDL (good cholesterol) was supposed to be a good thing; it turns out that may not be the case.

Antioxidants have been studied and thus far do not seem to be effective. great, now i will stop adding pomegranite juice to my martinis!

Gull, I misread, sorry. Donna

Raising HDL (good cholesterol) was supposed to be a good thing; it turns out that may not be the case. Really? Please enlighten us. I have always paid more attention to the LDL number but I know many people who are quite concerned about having an HDL number under 50.

My buddy who owns a "whole food" type store says that if you only take 3 things, it should be a multi-vitamin, CoQ10 and glucosamine. And I'm sure he'd be happy to sell those to you. However, by law supplements do not need to be effective to be sold. Neither Coenzyme Q10 nor glucosamine are of any proven benefit, having been studied in large randomized clinical trials. Likewise, when studied individually, megadoses of vitamins are not helpful and in some cases may be harmful (Vitamins E and C, to name two).

Pfizer recently halted a study of a drug which raises HDL due to an excess number of deaths. It's now thought that HDL may be more complex than previously believed. Gull, When you follow the first sentence by the second, the implication is that you are connecting these two thoughts (especially when you only have a two sentence response.) Your two sentences standing alone are true statements. Trying to draw a connection between the two at this point is not. Leo

have only one more thought about this. The big difference between many bad unhealthy htings we put in to our bodies and transfats is that frequently we don't even know that transfats are involved.

have only one more thought about this. The big difference between many bad unhealthy htings we put in to our bodies and transfats is that frequently we don't even know that transfats are involved. I would agree with that statement. I have developed an ability to determine, with a relatively high degree of accuracy, which foods contain trans fats and which do not. But this is only after I have been reading labels and seeing a trend as to which types of foods are most likely to contain these fats.