Anyone else watch The Biggest Loser?

A study was conducted in the mid-20th century where the oldest people on earth were interviewed. It found that the following factors contributed to their longevity: None of the old people had any kind of arthritis - not one of them None of them ever took any food supplements of any kind All of the centenarians he met did some kind of physical activity everyday Most of them had a garden to grow some of their own foods Almost all of them were actively involved with their communities They ate whole, organically grown grains, seeds, legumes, berries, fruits and vegetables The small amounts of flesh products consumed were chemical-free They consumed some form of raw or clabbered milk product almost daily They expelled waste daily without signs of constipation or incontinence They were happy and content with their lot in life They were invariably compassionate, altruistic and spiritualNo sex, prescription drugs, alcohol, NSAIDs or TFs on that list. Were any of these old folks living in the US? I wonder. If lifestyle is pivotal in aging and it's not just genes and Darwinism, I don't think so. I think aging varies across cultures. For example, I believe a big factor in aging is stress. We all seem somewhat stressed out. I am. The traffic in my manual transmission BMW is killing me. I think many of us may be missing the siesta, the daily meditation, the 4-6 week vacation, the extra long chats with friends over the MonkeyLalas, and the extra massages to relax one and build the immune system. We may also be following Geochuck's lead and eating too much red meat. Shouldn't we be ingesting olive oil, veggies, fish and wine? Or is that new Mediterranean diet as bad as Atkins? I just know that all that organic, chemical-free stuff costs a lot of money at Whole Foods.

I read this article today about internal and external fat...very interesting www.telegraph.co.uk/.../main.jhtml;jsessionid=VHHBGIYC3HCU1QFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0

What about dogs who have bad shoulders from years of doggy paddle? Dude, what's got you on a shoulder rant? :dedhorse: :dedhorse: :dedhorse: Do you want to sit at that shoulder table with the cute girls and Wookie? And you didn't even have the decency to answer any of my questions... Back to the grind.

Dude, what's got you on a shoulder rant? :dedhorse: :dedhorse: :dedhorse: Do you want to sit at that shoulder table with the cute girls and Wookie? And you didn't even have the decency to answer any of my questions... Back to the grind. It has to have been the Sake... What questions??

I think SCY is right, you can't stress over things you can't control. Vitamin D -- is it in or out? Are we using sunscreen or not? Or we taking glucosamine or not? Are antioxidants effective or not? Oh, are they? Anyone taking alpha lipoic acid? Are antioxidants regulated or do they just have that "the FDA has not approved the statements" on the bottle stuff? I haven't done that research. Someone must know. These questions. Now I have to stop playing around here and go back to work so I can afford xmas and my fun car.

So I guess that means you can still clean out your system after its contaminated or you can de-stress your life after stressing yourself out. I think SCY is right, you can't stress over things you can't control. Vitamin D -- is it in or out?OUT Are we using sunscreen or not? YES Or we taking glucosamine or not? Are antioxidants effective or not? YES-Green Tea has an "effect" on me Oh, are they?WTH Anyone taking alpha lipoic acid? Just that one time in CollegeAre antioxidants regulated or do they just have that "the FDA has not approved the statements" on the bottle stuff? You pays your money and takes your choice. I haven't done that research. Someone must know. You think so? My buddy who owns some a "whole food" type store says that if you only take 3 things, it should be a multi-vitamin, I do. CoQ10 Is that like WD-40? and glucosamine Yes but not with Chrondroitin. Chrondroitin: BAD. He says the glucosamine really helps dogs with arthritis, for all you posters with dog avatars. Ever see how an arthritic dog livens right up when it goes outside in the snow? ICE WORKS Answers posted in your quote, Mr Super Hero "pantyhose with knickers on the outside" Guy.

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Antioxidants have been studied and thus far do not seem to be effective. My father the doc did not believe in supplements either, of course that was many years ago. So is there anything that will help besides eating seeds and chemical free food and being "invariably compassionate, altruistic and spiritual?" (I mean, aside from swimming.)

And I'm sure he'd be happy to sell those to you. However, by law supplements do not need to be effective to be sold. Neither Coenzyme Q10 nor glucosamine are of any proven benefit, having been studied in large randomized clinical trials. Likewise, when studied individually, megadoses of vitamins are not helpful and in some cases may be harmful (Vitamins E and C, to name two). Thanks Gull. Glucosamine seemed to help my dog in his old age. I actually don't take anything beside a multi-vitamin. What about the anti-oxidants?

Antioxidants have been studied and thus far do not seem to be effective.