Why do most masters swimmers hate breaststroke?

Fort, what's funny about that is I have a teammate that claims breaststroke is her worst stroke and it's sucks, she swims absolutely BEAUTIFUL breaststroke her 50 time "sucks" and is 32.8. I feel so bad for her. I'm actually hiding the fact that I swam a :27 50 *** at my meet yesterday, I just don't want anyone to feel bad ...

rip on distance free swimmers, especially open water swimmers. Give me a black line on the bottom of the pool to follow or give me death! Boo!! You're lucky David Barra isn't reading this. This thread has really taken some odd turns. Can't we get back to who has diamond calves? Maybe some breaststroke bragger wants to put their calves up as an avatar?

FlyQueen I can't see how it is ever going to work out between us if you keep taunting me so...:shakeshead: I think you just want me to break down and beg for you to show me fly... Rich after our scandolous affair at Nationals next year I will gladly show you fly ... ;) Wow, imagine if your wife ever read this .... :dedhorse:

My goal is to go sub :40, but that probably means I need to start working on it at practice ... hmmm ... Coach Muppet suggests working on Breaststroke in practice. :thhbbb: Sometime before SCYnats 05, an inter-team bet was made to crown the "King of the 100 IM." I knew I had no shot, but gave it a try, and that would mean I would need to improve my breaststroke. A lot of it is timing and cadence. Watch the best. Learn from them. I recall swimming most of a workout breaststroke one day (it was a short workout, SCM). I did/do a lot of breaststroke with dolphin kick (to work on the wavy motion and a strong pull) and a lot of 1pull/2kick breastroke to get the glide and body position down. It helped tremendously. Dropped a couple seconds (sub 1min), didn't win the bet, but impressed the breastrokers and in my animal swim, didn't lose much ground on the breaststrokers.

Rich after our scandolous affair at Nationals next year I will gladly show you fly ... ;) What happened to your and Kyra's UT Austin dude????:dunno:

Outside of masters meets (and practices) how often do you see any women in the 65+ age group swim fly? How often do you see them swim ***? Yes, on Sunday I did race against women much older than me in my 50 ***, and some may have beaten me, but that's okay. I accept my faults ... and since breaststroke is sucky anyway why bother ... Roses are red, violets are blue breaststroke sucks and so do you! ;) :smooch: FlyQueen I can't see how it is ever going to work out between us if you keep taunting me so...:shakeshead: I think you just want me to break down and beg for you to show me fly...

Can't we get back to who has diamond calves? Maybe some breaststroke bragger wants to put their calves up as an avatar? I quickly took out the digital and captured those diamonds of calves. I am out of shape but I can still do 720 pounds on the inclined leg press and 400 pounds on the toe lift. Diamonds are still there:bow: Then I thought, what if I posted those diamond calves as an avatar. The whole internet would come to a halt as all those ladies downloaded the photos. And flyqueen would give up her passion for fly and want to become a complete swimmer by swimming a great breaststroker:woot: :woot: On a side note, you haven't been to a SPMA meet where we have several older ladies 75 to 90 that still do a GREAT butterfly. Of course they are in the Hall of Fame. Now is it just me or is the banter between Flyqueen and SwimStud sounding like foreplay:dedhorse: :dedhorse:

Wayne: You're back! Rest assured, we would all love to see those diamond calves. You missed it earlier, we had people posting their "guns" as avatars. So calves are equally good. 720 pounds? Jeez. I'm not sure even seeing a picture of the "calves that can press 720" would dissuade FlyQueen. And she is a big forum flirt. Just like Rich. That's why he picked his monicker. I think you should also check out the "mystery of breaststroke" thread and the "back/fly combo" thread and weigh in. It appears we could all use more of your advice. :bow: Watch out Forty...your halo might slip down and choke you...:wiggle: :smooch: :drink: Wayne...I dunno me posting my calves...it's a helluva lotta bandwith...:D

Back in the 90's when I was a weight room rat, I used to go 30 reps at 1080 on the inclined leg press and 500 on the toe lifts. I went up against some LA Raider players on the leg press, no problem. The only guy who ever killed me on the machine was an Air Force Parajumper, rescues downed pilots. Short at about 5'9", maybe 180 pounds of solid muscle. We started at 540 at 30 reps, went up at 90 pound intervals until 810, then back down again to 450. That's 240 reps, and I was ripped to shreds. I think he was too, but he sure didn't say anything and I didn't either. And every rep was two seconds up and 4 seconds down. I normally do 20 reps at each weight until I max out the day, either 720 or 810, where I will do 30 reps. Maybe 90-100 reps total. In 40 years of swimming, one endorphin high. But many many endorphin highs from the weight room, esp. after taking a carbo pump drink and then REALLY stressing the legs, just shredding them.:groovy: :groovy:

Back in the 90's when I was a weight room rat, I used to go 30 reps at 1080 on the inclined leg press and 500 on the toe lifts. I went up against some LA Raider players on the leg press, no problem. The only guy who ever killed me on the machine was an Air Force Parajumper, rescues downed pilots. Short at about 5'9", maybe 180 pounds of solid muscle. We started at 540 at 30 reps, went up at 90 pound intervals until 810, then back down again to 450. That's 240 reps, and I was ripped to shreds. I think he was too, but he sure didn't say anything and I didn't either. And every rep was two seconds up and 4 seconds down. I normally do 20 reps at each weight until I max out the day, either 720 or 810, where I will do 30 reps. Maybe 90-100 reps total. In 40 years of swimming, one endorphin high. But many many endorphin highs from the weight room, esp. after taking a carbo pump drink and then REALLY stressing the legs, just shredding them.:groovy: :groovy: I can't recall my exact weights leg press and toe raise days...I used to press a heck of a lot though...I used to be able to suat the olympic bar with 3 plates on each side for 8-10... I was messing about at 2 plates and a bit on each side and was having a mental block about going up in weight. One day I just stuck on 3 on each side had a guy spot me just in case and banged out 8 without any stress. It was mind over matter...comes into play when you feel like death and you get halfway through your set and feel like stopping. My calves are actually quite sleek now in truth... PS FlyQueen... Mysig says it all ;)