The latest threads clearly reveal that the vast majority of masters swimmers wish breaststroke did not exist (except Peter, Allen, Aquafeisty, and a possiblely experimenting SCY freestyler). So why does everyone hate breaststroke? :mad:
I'll go first. I hated it when I was young because it was too slow, I never learned how to do it right, and I never learned the wave action because it didn't exist when I was young. I can't seem do get the timing right now. And I have no excuse. Unlike my shoulder, my knees are fully intact. Not sure I have the gumption or time to put in 100,000 yards for a complete overhaul on a stroke I don't swim in meets. But I'd like to be able to fake it in IMs ...
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Flyqueen is correct, breaststrokers do it with both hands:rofl:
SwimStud, you are RIGHT, it is mostly mental. For a long time I just did about 400 on the leg press and 200 on the toe lifts. Then a little female body builder shamed me into working in with this GIANT with legs like tree trunks. In one session I went from 200 on toe lifts to 340 and to 600 on the leg press.
Flyqueen just needs a good breaststroke coach Hey, If I can get special olympians to look good I could get her to at least look good while swimming breaststroke.:dedhorse: Nah, probably beyond my powers:rofl:
Now, I see that Muppet and Kristina are using the dolphin kick to practice the wave and timing, I will join right in. I also love the 1 pull/2 kick drill. Maybe someday breaststroke will be something other than a means to get to the freestyle in an IM. Maybe.
I've been doing these drills as a part of every workout. I checked my splits from the last few times I did a 100 IM and the *** is 1/3 of my race.
(23+ sec) It would make a big difference if I could get under 20.
In theory that suits me; no strings...but it will just end up with me having to get a restraining order on you...not that I mean to brag...
My wife says I'm "talking to my girlfriends" on here as it is...I think that's unfair...I have posted to Muppet at least 1 time! Anyhow as long as I tile her floor and let her watch Dr McDreamy in peace that is all she cares about...you will learn this about marriage someday too LOL
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Oh poor conceited Rich, as I have done several times before I will leave you crying in my wake ... I seem to have this effect (the now I'm going to stalk you FlyQueen because you are so fabulous effect) on most men ... it's a pity really ...
Oh poor conceited Rich, as I have done several times before I will leave you crying in my wake ... I seem to have this effect (the now I'm going to stalk you FlyQueen because you are so fabulous effect) on most men ... it's a pity really ...
The what now effect?...
I almost ROFLed myself...
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Just look at me. I go a 32.9.
And you're whining about hating breaststroke? I would love to swim that time. Makes my 38 a bit pedestrian by comparison. I think I'll retract my challenge to race you in the ***. How about dog paddle?
You mess with Aaron and we are no longer friends ... seriously ... we'll negoitiate on the rest ... I think I've made some Michigan calls, too ... and besides I'm just going to use Rich then throw him away ... please ...
Coach Muppet suggests working on Breaststroke in practice. :thhbbb:
Sometime before SCYnats 05, an inter-team bet was made to crown the "King of the 100 IM." I knew I had no shot, but gave it a try, and that would mean I would need to improve my breaststroke. A lot of it is timing and cadence. Watch the best. Learn from them. I recall swimming most of a workout breaststroke one day (it was a short workout, SCM).
I did/do a lot of breaststroke with dolphin kick (to work on the wavy motion and a strong pull) and a lot of 1pull/2kick breastroke to get the glide and body position down.
It helped tremendously. Dropped a couple seconds (sub 1min), didn't win the bet, but impressed the breastrokers and in my animal swim, didn't lose much ground on the breaststrokers.
Vince coached again tonight (he coached last Tuesday) and would you believe that he made me swim 12 x 50 alt bk/br (by 50)?!! The nerve!! He also gave me feedback which was good. I do workout on it actually, and ask for feedback all the time.
By the way my next set was a "Heather" set of 6 x (50 fr on :45, 50 dolphin kick on back on 1:15 (it was supposed to be 1:10 but the interval just made more sense on 1:15 - I should add that I held these EASILY around :50 so it probably should have been 1:00 but whatever) and finally 50 fly on 1:00)
I thought I was going to puke in the gutter I actually laid in the tiny little gutter for the 1st 100 of the next set (a 300 pull).
Fort, what's funny about that is I have a teammate that claims breaststroke is her worst stroke and it's sucks, she swims absolutely BEAUTIFUL breaststroke her 50 time "sucks" and is 32.8. I feel so bad for her. I'm actually hiding the fact that I swam a :27 50 *** at my meet yesterday, I just don't want anyone to feel bad ...
Did you have a head start?!?! :wave:
Did you have a head start?!?! :wave:
I started in heat one and then they started heat two not thinking anyone could still be swimming I was gliding like Ande taught me and so my official time was a :27 ... or *cough45cough*