Why do most masters swimmers hate breaststroke?

The latest threads clearly reveal that the vast majority of masters swimmers wish breaststroke did not exist (except Peter, Allen, Aquafeisty, and a possiblely experimenting SCY freestyler). So why does everyone hate breaststroke? :mad: I'll go first. I hated it when I was young because it was too slow, I never learned how to do it right, and I never learned the wave action because it didn't exist when I was young. I can't seem do get the timing right now. And I have no excuse. Unlike my shoulder, my knees are fully intact. Not sure I have the gumption or time to put in 100,000 yards for a complete overhaul on a stroke I don't swim in meets. But I'd like to be able to fake it in IMs ...
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    Back in the 90's when I was a weight room rat, I used to go 30 reps at 1080 on the inclined leg press and 500 on the toe lifts. I went up against some LA Raider players on the leg press, no problem. The only guy who ever killed me on the machine was an Air Force Parajumper, rescues downed pilots. Short at about 5'9", maybe 180 pounds of solid muscle. We started at 540 at 30 reps, went up at 90 pound intervals until 810, then back down again to 450. That's 240 reps, and I was ripped to shreds. I think he was too, but he sure didn't say anything and I didn't either. And every rep was two seconds up and 4 seconds down. I normally do 20 reps at each weight until I max out the day, either 720 or 810, where I will do 30 reps. Maybe 90-100 reps total. In 40 years of swimming, one endorphin high. But many many endorphin highs from the weight room, esp. after taking a carbo pump drink and then REALLY stressing the legs, just shredding them.:groovy: :groovy: I can't recall my exact weights leg press and toe raise days...I used to press a heck of a lot though...I used to be able to suat the olympic bar with 3 plates on each side for 8-10... I was messing about at 2 plates and a bit on each side and was having a mental block about going up in weight. One day I just stuck on 3 on each side had a guy spot me just in case and banged out 8 without any stress. It was mind over matter...comes into play when you feel like death and you get halfway through your set and feel like stopping. My calves are actually quite sleek now in truth... PS FlyQueen... Mysig says it all ;)
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  • Former Member
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    Back in the 90's when I was a weight room rat, I used to go 30 reps at 1080 on the inclined leg press and 500 on the toe lifts. I went up against some LA Raider players on the leg press, no problem. The only guy who ever killed me on the machine was an Air Force Parajumper, rescues downed pilots. Short at about 5'9", maybe 180 pounds of solid muscle. We started at 540 at 30 reps, went up at 90 pound intervals until 810, then back down again to 450. That's 240 reps, and I was ripped to shreds. I think he was too, but he sure didn't say anything and I didn't either. And every rep was two seconds up and 4 seconds down. I normally do 20 reps at each weight until I max out the day, either 720 or 810, where I will do 30 reps. Maybe 90-100 reps total. In 40 years of swimming, one endorphin high. But many many endorphin highs from the weight room, esp. after taking a carbo pump drink and then REALLY stressing the legs, just shredding them.:groovy: :groovy: I can't recall my exact weights leg press and toe raise days...I used to press a heck of a lot though...I used to be able to suat the olympic bar with 3 plates on each side for 8-10... I was messing about at 2 plates and a bit on each side and was having a mental block about going up in weight. One day I just stuck on 3 on each side had a guy spot me just in case and banged out 8 without any stress. It was mind over matter...comes into play when you feel like death and you get halfway through your set and feel like stopping. My calves are actually quite sleek now in truth... PS FlyQueen... Mysig says it all ;)
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