I am slow, and when I mean slow, I mean slow. I can do a 26 sec 50 with fins, but without I come in just under 1:20! I think a big part of it is just taking the fins off and doing a lot of kick sets to learn to feel the water better with my feet. I have a good breaststroke kick so I don't think my problem is an overly weak pair of legs, although they could be in better shape. Also, myankles are fairly flexible as I can point my toes and make my feet bend backwards past an even position with my shins. However, I do think that I need to loosen up my ankles when I kick. I feel like I get more out of my kick for those brief moments when I allow my ankles to snap back and forth with my kick. I think I actually need to relax more to kick faster as weird as that sounds.
I suppose the answer to my question is that I simply need to take of the fins and do kick set after kick set until I learn to feel the water better with my feet and become more efficient.
Anybody here working on your flutter kick, SDK or sprint speed?
follow the program and post your results
It works if you work it!
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Help My flutter Kick is Horrible
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12/1/11: 19.08 flutter w/ board, 24.20 flutter on back, 13.24 sprint free, 14.48 sprint fly
12/17/11: 19.30 flutter w/ board, 25.12 flutter on back
Missed some workouts recently, but getting back into it.
Anybody here working on your flutter kick, SDK or sprint speed?
follow the program and post your results
It works if you work it!
I never really used to do much kick in my workouts. Now I try to do a "significant amount" of flutter kick w/ board after my initial warmups. I find if I wait till later in the workouts and then try to kick hard I end up cramping in my calves.
I used to have a hard time even doing 1:00s for 50 of kick, granted I wasn't putting that much effort into it.
Now I'm doing sets of 50s @ :55 holding :45s or so, and yesterday I did 10 @ :55, then 10 @ :50, also holding 45s.
I switch it up with distances as well: 75s, 100s, & 125s. My intervals are all starting to come down too. I know this is helping me when it comes to racing, though I'm don't purposely put the effort into my kick in a race.
You are right Ande. You know I agree about kicking. I did lots of it when I was younger. My knees started bothering me when I was in my twenties trying to compete in breaststroke. When I reached 60 I could barely walk. I have had two knee replacements and I have major problems pushing off walls. If I kick too hard I have trouble with knee clicking and get great pain walking. Very little kicking no pain.
Anybody here working on your flutter kick, SDK or sprint speed?
follow the program and post your results
It works if you work it!
LINKS to Speed Training Programs:
Try them out, report your results.
Help My flutter Kick is Horrible
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Help my SDK is Horrible
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Yeah. I've read most of this string and I have just now gotten started. And it really ain't pretty.
.34 25 yard kick with a board.
.72 50 yard kick with a board.
I go 1:18 for a scy 100 so you can see that I'm all upper body right now.
The women all laugh at me until we switch to pull buoys. Then I kill'em!
Ande, I've started practicing the SDK. I still need to have someone time me but it feels as though I'm slowing my turns down by using it. I know that this will change over time but that'e where I'm at.
I'll stert tomorow going w/o a board too.
Yeah. I've read most of this string and I have just now gotten started. And it really ain't pretty.
.34 25 yard kick with a board.
.72 50 yard kick with a board.
I go 1:18 for a scy 100 so you can see that I'm all upper body right now.
The women all laugh at me until we switch to pull buoys. Then I kill'em!
Ande, I've started practicing the SDK. I still need to have someone time me but it feels as though I'm slowing my turns down by using it. I know that this will change over time but that'e where I'm at.
I'll start tomorow going w/o a board too.
Hey 3 Rivers!
Welcome to H.M.F.K.I.H!
If you do the training, you will become a faster kicker
for now, don't worry about your 50 speed or times
concentrate on improving your 12.5, 15, & 25 speed
get your 25 under 25 or 20 before working on 50's
Represent your times like this:
12/20/2011 25Y Flutter K WB :34; 50Y Flutter K WB :72
Get a water proof stop watch to time yourself to the 1/10th of a second,
though you should be dropping in chunks for a while.
keep working on your SDK, just do short bursts
like 2, 4, 6, 8 & 10 kicks
You can Kick faster faster
12/27 12.5Y Flutter K WB 14.1;
12/31 12.5Y Flutter K WB 13.1; 20Y Flutter K WB 16.1
1/4 12.5 Flutter K WB 10.4;
1/5 12.5 Flutter K WB 10.5
I've been doing double duty trying to get it down. I can't explain the drastic change from the 31st to the 4th but I was close to that time again today so I think it's legit.
The SDK is still horrible but I'll continue to work on it as well as kicking greater distances and going W/O the board.
12/1/11: 19.08 flutter w/ board, 24.20 flutter on back, 13.24 sprint free, 14.48 sprint fly
12/17/11: 19.30 flutter w/ board, 25.12 flutter on back
1/8/12: 25Y Flutter K WB: 18.23; 25Y Flutter K on back: 24.05; 25Y fly swim: 13.90
PR in the kick with board and the fly swim. I got some TYR crossblades for christmas and have really enjoyed mixing them into workouts. I think they have worked well at letting me get aerobic kicking in...without fins I still have to kick very hard to be able to move so those are usually sprint or lactate sets.
12/1/11: 19.08 flutter w/ board, 24.20 flutter on back, 13.24 sprint free, 14.48 sprint fly
12/17/11: 19.30 flutter w/ board, 25.12 flutter on back
1/8/12: 25Y Flutter K WB: 18.23; 25Y Flutter K on back: 24.05; 25Y fly swim: 13.90
PR in the kick with board and the fly swim. I got some TYR crossblades for christmas and have really enjoyed mixing them into workouts. I think they have worked well at letting me get aerobic kicking in...without fins I still have to kick very hard to be able to move so those are usually sprint or lactate sets.
way to go. 18.23 is a PB
How'd you do it? What helped the most?
What do you need to do to go faster?
