I just got Total immersion book yesterday.
Have read part 1 of the book and just started doing the drills today.
It seems an excallent way to swim and definatly will improve my f/s.
But i'm a bit weary because it's so comercail. so my question is,
Is Total immersion as good a way to swim as it makes out?
or is it the best way to learn how to swim?
Are there better books out there that teach you how to swim well(properly)?
Hope that makes sense
Swifty
Former Member
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Originally posted by geochuck
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Always long course, we did not swim the fifty meters it was a split on the way to my 54.6 100 meter time. Which was my best time...
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George Park www.swimdownhill.com
and this is in between 1952 Olympics -with Clarke Scholes (U.S.) winner in 57.4-, and the 1956 Olympics -with Jon Hendricks (Aus.) winner in 55.4, a new Olympic Record-.
While George's alleged 54.6 is almost a second faster than Hendricks's future Olympic Record.
It seems to me to be a case of the older we are, the faster we were, of "Wait until my knee heels and I will show" and of there is no point to do yardage to improve one's athleticism because doing yardage is garbage.
Originally posted by Frank Thompson
Perhaps we can get George and Ion to attend the USMS Nationals in Coral Springs and we can all watch them swim. They could do the different events on different days. In fact they could do it at the warm up pool by the bar area where they will be serving beer. I believe that is what Mark Gill said they were going to do during the meet. Just think, after a hard day of swimming all of USMS could be entertained by these races. Kinda of like going to the race track and betting on your favorite.
We would have Geek, Gull, Goodsmith, Evil Pablo Smith, Wookiee, Sam Perry, Newmasterswimmer, Kirk Nelson, scyfreestyler, and everyone else who wants to be in on the action. If one person seems to be the favorite, we could have someone generate odds on the outcome. All of this as a result of what we think of total immersion.
We can compare times at the end of the Short Course and Long Course season.
I would like to attend Coral Springs, but my schedule seems to shape up as Short Course meet in Mission Viejo in March, Short Course meet in La Jolla in April, Long Course meet in La Jolla in July, Long Course meet at Stanford in August.
It would have to be longcourse 50 unable to push off on the turn. Have a wedding to go to in Eastern canada in July. Long Course meet at Stanford in August if I can enter. See you there>
Originally posted by Frank Thompson
Hi Matt:
Are you sure about that 200 Free time in the low 2 minutes or like 1:57/58 range? Because just recently, I recall that Ion said he was somewhere in the 2:07 to 2:09 range. I honestly can't recall which website it was on because he responds to 3 or 4 swimming websites. It could have been here. If you are correct in your assessment, than George has his work cut out for him and we all here should take some notice to this improvement.
In fact, I believe he would be getting close to Geek and Gull times and therefore I would suggest that either one of those two take George's spot in Coral Springs since he won't be ready for his race with Ion.
My best 200 yards free is from May 2005, a 2:09.11 indeed.
But I am proud of doing it -and other swims- as an adult, who started swimming entirely outside the window of opportunity for best aerobic development in life.
U.S. Masters swimmers typically develop as swimmers inside the window of opportunity for best aerobic and physiological development when they are kids, and as kids they are sheltered by parents from earning their life;
in Masters swimming they do a fraction of their own teenage feats, they decline, and complain about not being capable of training as well in adulthood.
In contrast, I had done 100% of my swimming improvement in adulthood, outside the window of opportunity, and behind other priorities in life;
ptiorities like an education in a foreign country, moving from country to country based on certain skills in education, and holding high tech jobs for which there is a shortage of qualified people in U.S..
Originally posted by Ion Beza
My best 200 yards free is from May 2005, a 2:09.11 indeed.
But I am proud of doing it -and other swims- as an adult, who started swimming entirely outside the window of opportunity for best aerobic development in life.
U.S. Masters swimmers typically develop as swimmers inside the window of opportunity for best aerobic and physiological development when they are kids, and as kids they are sheltered by parents from earning their life;
in Masters swimming they do a fraction of their own teenage feats, they decline, and complain about not being capable of training as well in adulthood.
In contrast, I had done 100% of my swimming improvement in adulthood, outside the window of opportunity, and behind other priorities in life;
ptiorities like an education in a foreign country, moving from country to country based on certain skills in education, and holding high tech jobs for which there is a shortage of qualified people in U.S..
Would you like some cheese with that?
We all have our obstacles and setbacks in life. Just remember, no matter how hard you think you had it there are thousands more who had it much worse.
Originally posted by geochuck
Ion
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...when I found out the masters club you swim for, I could not see how with your opinion about TI, you could stay with that club that is so TI.
Swim Smarter has elements of Total Immersion in it, and has differences.
I think things over.
In another club in San Diego -who has 28 year old Nicholas Kintz from France as a new coach (a 4x100 free and 4x200 free Olympian in 2000 and 2004)-, coach Allison Terry -a #9 in the 50 meter free at the 2000 U.S. Olympic Trials- tells me to not finish my pull, to get the pulling arm out of the water before the end of the pull in order to increase my Stroke Rate, the way she does it.
Contrary to Total Immersion.
Originally posted by scyfreestyler
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We all have our obstacles and setbacks in life. Just remember, no matter how hard you think you had it there are thousands more who had it much worse.
It's not only how hard I think I had it.
Mainly, it's how great I am.
