"Not good enough"?!!! Ion baby, you're killing me! I spend all this time (at no cost to you, I may add!) evaluating my ability to do you a *big* favor, and do I get a nice (cost effective!) contract? No, I get dissed! (Oy, what would my mother say if she saw this!)
It is true, Ion, I have tested it out. I *can* come off of the wall superman style, breath every arm pull, kick with gigantic scissors kicks when I breath, and start my "catch" (lets not quibble, Ion!) at the surface of the water, and *still* make qualification times!
How do I do it? With superior VO2 Max!!
Now Ion, don't *yawn* (heh heh, a little joke, get it?) at this offer, it is your opportunity to swim more than three events this summer (LCM, of course, we are a little late for the other meet.) By the rings on my pinky, this is a not to be missed opportunity!!
Remember Ion, I am the first and still the best swimmer for hire, that is why *I* am SwimR4Rent(tm)!!!
So we have the basis for Ion's theory - time to examine the claim:
1. The window for best aerobic development in one's life is 13-19 for boys, (I'm paraphrasing here so if I'm off let me know). By your claims if someone did not swim during the growth years (13-19) they will not be successful? (Ion please define successful, winning a gold medal would be successful I agree, lets face it we are talking about a 1 in how many billions achieve this - Just like like being a billionaire could be deemed successful in business but do you have to be the richest man in the world to be a successful business man, would you agree say a top 10 USMS time could be a way of considring one to be successful in swimming?).
2. The three more cardio-vascular sports are in order -from highest down-, cross country skiing, swimming, marathon running; - how come the highest VO2 readings come from cross country skiiers, distance runners and road cyclist (I haven't found a list that has included any swimmers, I also haven't found a list to include any sprinters (ie Nelson Vails, Carl Lewis, Maurice Greene, etc.)
3. Swimmers at the Olympic level, even sprinters, do overdistance training for developing their cardiovascular shape; - Do they or could it be honing their swim technique, when Tiger Woods finishes a practice round of golf and does 100 one hand putts is he doing it to develop his putting VO2 max or working on perfecting his putting skill.
I run my theory by a sports medicine doctor a few days ago and he thinks that this is possible providing that biopsies on athletes' muscles show that the muscles developed in that sport have cells with a greater absorption of oxygen developed during a certain age span. - I think it should be : I ran my theory by - not I run (not that I am one to throw stones since I have had my share of typos, so you can understand someone making a typo now can't we). As I mentioned before I talked to someone very much in the know (Loren Myhre) about Sports Medicine and specifically training of swimmers and VO2 max, his comment to me was that swimming is more about explosive power than VO2 (some exception for the distance events) - that a swimmer should train like their running counter part (ie a 100 free should be training like a 400 runner (since their respective events last the same duration), with the exception of working on technique for swimmers because of how much technique affects their sport.
Originally posted by aquageek
What kind of doctor is proposing autopsies on muscles to prove you correct? You press constantly on this forum for names. Give us a doctor's name, Ion, who supports peforming autopsies to prove this V02Max theory of yours.
That's just another place where Ion is way off, and making things up.
If he knew anyting about autopsies and post mortem body chemistry he'd know that the chemichal processes that occur in the body startig as soon as the blood stops circulating would, in simplisitc terms, destroy the data that needs to be collected to support his theories.
And this is not merely my opinion, but my recollection ow what I've read in medical papers about experimenting with VO2Max reserach.
No, I don't have the time or the inclination to go find them all over again and quote them. If anyone is interested, they can dig around and find them for themselves (Ion).
Originally posted by Ion Beza
Then you have nothing in common to talk with me about.
I've mainly been talking about you and your demeanor, not with you. I think most people noticed that by now.
Also, when I see a contradiction or a weakeness in your claims, I point them out.
That's usually how discussions work, and last time I checked, it's allowd in this forum.
Originally posted by Ion Beza
I run my theory by a sports medicine doctor
Could you tell us who this doctor is, so we can check out his credentials and make sure he actually exists.
I find it awfully fishy that in all the years of your theories you haven't thought of talking to a rteal doctor (but you talked ot a veterinarian instead), and the day after I mention my aount being a doctor, you're saying Me tooo, Me Tooo.
I bet the next thing you'll be claiming is that you make 300K a year as well?
Originally posted by mattson
See, in my experience, I can get a good anchor on the water. ...
Perhaps the reason Ion isn't progressing is not VO2Max, maybe he's just slipping water too much and getting himself inkefficiently breathless that way.
You know, next time I'm in the same meet he's in, Perhaps I'll tape his swim. I tape lot of other people's swims as it is.
Then we can see, rather than just listen to his exaggerated claims.
Originally posted by Ion Beza
I emphasize Craig's post:
Craig is a medical doctor.
And what he says has nothing to do with the support of your theories. It merely gives a concise description of what VO2Max is.
Originally posted by Ion Beza
In contrast to your sentiment about anchoring in water without touching ground (which any boat materially cannot do)...
Sorry Ion, this statement is not correct.
Kowing hydrodynamics is part of my profession, nd I can corraborate that what matsson csaid is not a sentimet, but a concise claim about some basic hydrodynamic principles.
