The Butterfly Lane

Hi Elaine, I think the kick timing should be kick as the hands go out, kick as the hands go in? Your second kick looks a little late, it’s happening after your hands go in. I think the second kick should be just before your hands enter the water. Also stick your butt into the air more when your hands enter.:) Thanks for checking out the video and posting your feedback. I appreciate it! I think what's happening is that I have been working on trying to land with soft hands, so my kick is pausing while I concentrate on the hands. It's the can't walk and chew gum at the same time syndrome! Having said that, I probably still do it the same way when I am not concentrating on my hands... As for my butt, if you happened to see earlier versions of my fly, my butt did go up in the air more; however, Swim Doc noticed I was picking too much at the waist, so I have been trying to initiate the undulation more with my chest and trying to avoid going down with my stroke. Hopefully, I can find a happier medium in there somewhere! Hi Elaine, Normally the second kick occurs when the hands exit the water. However you might want to checkout Yuya Yajima's butterfly stroke. He swims very much like you and is a very fast Japanese swimmer. Here is a link to a article with video on his stroke. They mention another Master swimmer who swims this way. swimswam.com/.../ I think that your stroke is much smoother and flatter than before. Hey there, ganache! Thank for your much appreciated feedback, too! I'm glad my stroke is looking smoother than before! I have seen that video before; I think it was in pwindrath's thread. I do try to swim with a more stretched out glide, because I swim the 200 fly and 400 IM, rather than sprints. My goal is more survival, rather than speed! Watching the underwater video, my kick timing does appear to be like Yajima's. Topside view of his stroke? That guy must have Janet Evans-like shoulders to be able to recover like that. OUCH! I also think my kick timing is similar to Terry Laughlin's, because I have studied his video, "Better Fly for Every Body." If you watch his timing, his hands are definitely back in the water before his down kick. This is how I learned fly in the first place. My part-time coach uses Total Immersion technique for coaching Masters-level swimmers.

Hi Elaine, I think the kick timing should be kick as the hands go out, kick as the hands go in? Your second kick looks a little late, it’s happening after your hands go in. I think the second kick should be just before your hands enter the water. Also stick your butt into the air more when your hands enter.:) Thanks for checking out the video and posting your feedback. I appreciate it! I think what's happening is that I have been working on trying to land with soft hands, so my kick is pausing while I concentrate on the hands. It's the can't walk and chew gum at the same time syndrome! Having said that, I probably still do it the same way when I am not concentrating on my hands... As for my butt, if you happened to see earlier versions of my fly, my butt did go up in the air more; however, Swim Doc noticed I was picking too much at the waist, so I have been trying to initiate the undulation more with my chest and trying to avoid going down with my stroke. Hopefully, I can find a happier medium in there somewhere! Hi Elaine, Normally the second kick occurs when the hands exit the water. However you might want to checkout Yuya Yajima's butterfly stroke. He swims very much like you and is a very fast Japanese swimmer. Here is a link to a article with video on his stroke. They mention another Master swimmer who swims this way. swimswam.com/.../ I think that your stroke is much smoother and flatter than before. Hey there, ganache! Thank for your much appreciated feedback, too! I'm glad my stroke is looking smoother than before! I have seen that video before; I think it was in pwindrath's thread. I do try to swim with a more stretched out glide, because I swim the 200 fly and 400 IM, rather than sprints. My goal is more survival, rather than speed! Watching the underwater video, my kick timing does appear to be like Yajima's. Topside view of his stroke? That guy must have Janet Evans-like shoulders to be able to recover like that. OUCH! I also think my kick timing is similar to Terry Laughlin's, because I have studied his video, "Better Fly for Every Body." If you watch his timing, his hands are definitely back in the water before his down kick. This is how I learned fly in the first place. My part-time coach uses Total Immersion technique for coaching Masters-level swimmers.