Butterfly, beautiful to watch, difficult to train.
We SDK off every wall.
We're most likely to smack hands with each other and those beside us.
Fly's fun to sprint but no fun when the piano comes down
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Boom-Digs,
This is gonna be a complete stab in the dark.
First - For now, don't even think about when or how to kick - except to keep your toes pointed.
Next - Fly is best swum with your focus on the position of your shoulders relative to your hips. It is called short axis rotation. If you do this right, the kick takes care of itself. Most people who struggle with fly have not figured out how the shoulders and hips should be positioned during the stroke cycle. I suspect that as you start to pull, you are performing the pull (actually a push) from your shoulders and your shoulders are going down at the same time your arms are going down. This is exactly the opposite of what you want. It leads to very late breathing and plowing along - mostly underwater.
Next - if this is your problem, to change to the correct positioning, when you start your pull, lift your head upward and keep your head up throughout the pull and most of the recovery. Yes, this will cause your hips to drop. More importantly, it keeps your shoulders higher than your hips which is the correct position. Over-exaggerated - Yes! Future adjustments to fix - Yes. Once you get comfortable with this, you and your coach(s) can start the fine tuning process.
Fins can be helpful if you have the basic stroke rhythm. If you are pushing your shoulders down to get your arms to pull, fins will not correct this - only help you go faster which might reinforce the incorrect rotation.
As I said - a complete stab in the dark without video to confirm or deny. :)
Good Luck
Paul
Hi Paul, sorry for not being able to provide
any video. Admittedly, my stroke is far from being watchable even from a beginner’s standpoint - I swear i can see the lifeguard’s toes cringe (from the corner of my goggles) each time he catches me attempting a stroke resembling butter-die. He’s probably wondering when he’ll have to eventually jump in and perform cpr. :)
Anyhow, I honestly think that you do have a very good point. My timing and motion may be completely off as I never really gave much thought on how i am pulling - if my shoulders drop while i pull, bringing my shoulders lower than my hips. This might explain why i simply cannot make a clean recovery.
I’ll take your advice to heart and try to keep my head up during the pull and part of the recovery so as to maintain my shoulders above the hips. I really hope this fixes it.
I’ll see if i can convince the lifeguard to hold my phone to take a video and assure him that he can drop it anytime he thinks i’m close to drowning. Lol
Boom-Digs,
This is gonna be a complete stab in the dark.
First - For now, don't even think about when or how to kick - except to keep your toes pointed.
Next - Fly is best swum with your focus on the position of your shoulders relative to your hips. It is called short axis rotation. If you do this right, the kick takes care of itself. Most people who struggle with fly have not figured out how the shoulders and hips should be positioned during the stroke cycle. I suspect that as you start to pull, you are performing the pull (actually a push) from your shoulders and your shoulders are going down at the same time your arms are going down. This is exactly the opposite of what you want. It leads to very late breathing and plowing along - mostly underwater.
Next - if this is your problem, to change to the correct positioning, when you start your pull, lift your head upward and keep your head up throughout the pull and most of the recovery. Yes, this will cause your hips to drop. More importantly, it keeps your shoulders higher than your hips which is the correct position. Over-exaggerated - Yes! Future adjustments to fix - Yes. Once you get comfortable with this, you and your coach(s) can start the fine tuning process.
Fins can be helpful if you have the basic stroke rhythm. If you are pushing your shoulders down to get your arms to pull, fins will not correct this - only help you go faster which might reinforce the incorrect rotation.
As I said - a complete stab in the dark without video to confirm or deny. :)
Good Luck
Paul
Hi Paul, sorry for not being able to provide
any video. Admittedly, my stroke is far from being watchable even from a beginner’s standpoint - I swear i can see the lifeguard’s toes cringe (from the corner of my goggles) each time he catches me attempting a stroke resembling butter-die. He’s probably wondering when he’ll have to eventually jump in and perform cpr. :)
Anyhow, I honestly think that you do have a very good point. My timing and motion may be completely off as I never really gave much thought on how i am pulling - if my shoulders drop while i pull, bringing my shoulders lower than my hips. This might explain why i simply cannot make a clean recovery.
I’ll take your advice to heart and try to keep my head up during the pull and part of the recovery so as to maintain my shoulders above the hips. I really hope this fixes it.
I’ll see if i can convince the lifeguard to hold my phone to take a video and assure him that he can drop it anytime he thinks i’m close to drowning. Lol