Most informed discussion here (and some suggestions for getting a different body's sanction and different insurance):
www.marathonswimmers.org/.../usms-ow-sanctioning
And from the top page of USMS site:
www.usms.org/.../articledisplay.php
There are sublinks at bottom of that screed.
I rather suspect the new insurance requirements will affect OW swimmers sooner rather than later. Meet directors are in a stew across the nation, having received sanctions but now the rules are changed and they must meet new requirements.
Swimmers should be aware that meets they are planning to go to might not happen.
...look for open water events to disappear...... we'll always have La Jolla, man.
This does suck, though, and might just call for more bandit swims with friends like SCAR 2012.
See you in Tempe Town Lake in April (http://www.azopenwater.com/)?
Kurt, there will always be many ways to express your OW love even though USMS has forsaken us.
For most of us, the show must go on, and it will. It is a shame that some events will fall off the calendar.
Kurt, there will always be many ways to express your OW love even though USMS has forsaken us.
That's a bit much, don't you think?
Sadly I’m sure much time and effort was put in for this National Championship bid which they won. It’s a shame to have this honor awarded, and then have the rug pulled out from under them. :-(
How's that? The 2013 insurance surcharges don't apply to national championships.
Sadly I’m sure much time and effort was put in for this National Championship bid which they won. It’s a shame to have this honor awarded, and then have the rug pulled out from under them. :-(
That's a bit much, don't you think?
No.
How's that? The 2013 insurance surcharges don't apply to national championships.
Provided they comply with the new regulations they never agreed to in the first place. Which in some cases may simply not be feasible. So no, not exactly.
More / better info at the Marathon Swimmers Forum.
How's that? The 2013 insurance surcharges don't apply to national championships. This is from the race director on the race web site, and I didn't specifically refer to insurance race surcharges. UPDATE FROM THE RACE DIRECTOR 2/19/13
Hi folks!
USMS has just released new guidelines for sanctioning the LV10K. We are working tirelessly to survey our options and be in compliance with these last minute changes. Please note this is a National Championship scheduled for May 18th, a little more then two months away, but one is unable to register for it, no race fee has been published, starting times, course information etc., per the note from the director I'm making the assumption if it weren't' for the mid course OW changes at USMS, registration would have been available and other information would have been published by now. Reference web site: http://www.lv10k.com/
For most of us, the show must go on, and it will.
Always in for a DIY long lake swim here...
I guess I should have a look at the site for my next swim, the WET End in ND. I don't think they go through USMS..or at least I don't remember giving my USMS number when registering.
How's that? The 2013 insurance surcharges don't apply to national championships.As I understand it, one of the major sticking points is due to the rules the event hosts had to agree to up-front.
According to event information there will be a Youth division to the races “Open to swimmers age 11-17! … Youth swimmers will race the same course in a separate wave one minute behind the adults. …
This is a recreational swim, not sanctioned by any governing body. Safety is our number one priority, please do not sign your child up for this event if they are not capable of doing the distance.”
Per USMS rules “Open water events restricted to USMS members, one-event registrants and Masters swimming members of a FINA member federation.” We do allow events to be dual sanctioned with USA Swimming. So the event either needed to apply for both USA Swimming and USMS sanctions or not run the youth division when the Masters were swimming.
The LMSC's share of the increased insurance cost is $1000, not $1800. Although the cost increase does not apply to national championships, it does apply to other events held at the same time, such as the shorter races that LV Masters intended to have along with the 10K. Also, the new boat requirements (for propeller guards and for the boat itself to carry insurance) apply to all sanctioned races.
I wish they'd say what the problem is, however. Has Southern Pacific Masters not decided yet how to handle the $1000? Are the race organizers having some problem arranging for boats that have the propeller guards and insurance that USMS's carrier now requires?
Other races affected by this cost increase and change in equipment rules have opened registration, such as the Lake Del Valle series in early June that includes the 1-mile National Championship. What is the hangup here?
