The anti-sandbag law:
"if a swimmer enters an event with a time significantly slower or faster than that swimmer's recorded time in the past two years, the meet director may, after a discussion with the swimmer, change the seeded time to a realistic time" (104.5.5.A(10)).
Concerning my Auburn nationals entry, I confess, when faced with a 7 hour 2 stop flight and 3:45 nonstop at an earlier time, I did what any warm-blooded middle-aged American swimmer with low self-esteem would do--sandbag my entry so I could catch the earlier flight, thus diminishing the possible time spent sitting next to a 400 pound Alabama slammer with sleep apnea wearing nothing but overalls and body odor. Of course, I was caught in my bold fabrication and my time was "fixed."
USMS seems to have an identity problem. Are we hard core with rigid qualifying times? It would seem not as 2 of my not-so-speedy family members were allowed to swim four events last year in Puerto Rico. If we are not hard core, why does anybody care that I sandbag? More to the point, why can one person enter a crappy time and another cannot? Just wondering.:)
Is this sandbagging ?
Did it violate "the rule ?"
Women 50-54 100 SC Meter Backstroke
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WORLD: W 1:09.25 3/19/2011 LESLIE LIVINGSTON, USA
USMS: N 1:09.25 3/19/2011 LESLIE LIVINGSTON
MEET: M 1:09.25 3/19/2011 Leslie Livingston
Name Age Team Seed Finals Points
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1 Livingston, Leslie 51 Patriot Masters 1:16.00 1:08.85W 6
or this ?
Women 50-54 50 SC Meter Butterfly
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WORLD: W 30.35 12/11/2011 LESLIE LIVINGSTON, USA
USMS: N 30.35 12/11/2011 LESLIE LIVINGSTON
MEET: M 30.50 3/19/2011 Leslie Livingston
Name Age Team Seed Finals
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1 Livingston, Leslie 51 Patriot Masters NT 29.54W
I find your post to be incredibly petty and mean spirited. I suspect it's payback for me suggesting long ago that you were elitist on your "most consecutive years top ten" thread.
I seeded myself at that time in 100 back because I did not want to be in the all male final heat in an outside lane. We women get sick of that happening in mixed gender meets, as I've said before. It's an effective penalty for fast women. And men like Clay Britt are, what, a foot taller than me and 80 pounds heavier? Enough women have complained to the meet director in the past that this year he did separate gender in the 50s. How fortunate for you that you never have these concerns! I stand by my seeding, and I cannot see why it is of any interest whatsoever to you. I will continue to seed myself at what I deem appropriate or to use strategies to overcome discriminatory situations like fly and back events being back-to-back or the 50 back typically being the dead last event at a meet.
My 50 fly time was a split request in the 100 fly. When doing this, you are SUPPOSED to seed yourself at your finishing time, which I did. I seeded myself at 2:00 and went 1:50+. I did not enter with a NT as you falsely indicate above. I always let adjacent lanes know if I am swimming for a split -- an absolutely routine commonplace occurrence.
It is truly your loss that you don't think and execute as I do. If more people did, they might swim faster faster.
Feel free to check the seed times for my nationals entries, you snobby elitist ____.
Name: Livingston, Leslie C
Sex/Age: W50
Club: Patriot Masters Swim Team (GMUP)
Events:
Event Seed Time Event Check-in
#7 - 100 Butterfly 1:02.50
#13 - 100 Backstroke 1:01.99
#19 - 100 Individual Medley 1:03.7
#25 - 50 Freestyle 25.30
#37 - 50 Butterfly 26.79
#41 - 50 Backstroke 27.46
Is this sandbagging ?
Did it violate "the rule ?"
Women 50-54 100 SC Meter Backstroke
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WORLD: W 1:09.25 3/19/2011 LESLIE LIVINGSTON, USA
USMS: N 1:09.25 3/19/2011 LESLIE LIVINGSTON
MEET: M 1:09.25 3/19/2011 Leslie Livingston
Name Age Team Seed Finals Points
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1 Livingston, Leslie 51 Patriot Masters 1:16.00 1:08.85W 6
or this ?
Women 50-54 50 SC Meter Butterfly
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WORLD: W 30.35 12/11/2011 LESLIE LIVINGSTON, USA
USMS: N 30.35 12/11/2011 LESLIE LIVINGSTON
MEET: M 30.50 3/19/2011 Leslie Livingston
Name Age Team Seed Finals
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1 Livingston, Leslie 51 Patriot Masters NT 29.54W
I find your post to be incredibly petty and mean spirited. I suspect it's payback for me suggesting long ago that you were elitist on your "most consecutive years top ten" thread.
I seeded myself at that time in 100 back because I did not want to be in the all male final heat in an outside lane. We women get sick of that happening in mixed gender meets, as I've said before. It's an effective penalty for fast women. And men like Clay Britt are, what, a foot taller than me and 80 pounds heavier? Enough women have complained to the meet director in the past that this year he did separate gender in the 50s. How fortunate for you that you never have these concerns! I stand by my seeding, and I cannot see why it is of any interest whatsoever to you. I will continue to seed myself at what I deem appropriate or to use strategies to overcome discriminatory situations like fly and back events being back-to-back or the 50 back typically being the dead last event at a meet.
My 50 fly time was a split request in the 100 fly. When doing this, you are SUPPOSED to seed yourself at your finishing time, which I did. I seeded myself at 2:00 and went 1:50+. I did not enter with a NT as you falsely indicate above. I always let adjacent lanes know if I am swimming for a split -- an absolutely routine commonplace occurrence.
It is truly your loss that you don't think and execute as I do. If more people did, they might swim faster faster.
Feel free to check the seed times for my nationals entries, you snobby elitist ____.
Name: Livingston, Leslie C
Sex/Age: W50
Club: Patriot Masters Swim Team (GMUP)
Events:
Event Seed Time Event Check-in
#7 - 100 Butterfly 1:02.50
#13 - 100 Backstroke 1:01.99
#19 - 100 Individual Medley 1:03.7
#25 - 50 Freestyle 25.30
#37 - 50 Butterfly 26.79
#41 - 50 Backstroke 27.46
