would be interested in hearing theories on why masters national records have been broken without the fast suits but world-class swimmers have not. i always thought the fast suits helped us more than them
would be interested in hearing theories on why masters national records have been broken without the fast suits but world-class swimmers have not. i always thought the fast suits helped us more than them
some national & world records HAVE been broken by elite swimmers
like Ryan Lochte's SCM 200 & 400 IMs WRs
Most WRs are very difficult to break, with the flurry of records that fell in the past few years indicate the suits helped quite a bit. I'm sure we'll see some WRs fall as the Olympics approach.
Masters WRs are way easier.
Compare masters records to times swimmers have done in similar age groups.
Sometimes there's a big gap. Shouldn't the fastest times for swimmers at certain ages be the masters records or should records only be given to those who filled out the paperwork, joined masters and filing for the record.
Some former elite swimmers could just dabble with training and easily break masters records.
Younger faster masters swimmers age up every year.
Aging up is prime time to strike at records.
Swimmers who were in college in the 1950's
didn't train as far or hard as swimmers in the 1960's and weren't as fast.
And same when you compare swimmers from the 1960's with the 1970's.
Same with the 1970's compared to the 1980's.
Most swimmers stopped swimming after their Sr years in college.
At the 1984 Olympics, Rowdy was considered OLD at 25. He thought of himself as "really old" at 29 in the 1988 trials.
In the late 80's, 90's & 00's, we started seeing more world class swimmers training at elite levels in their:
mid to late 20's, (too many to list)
early mid & late 30's, (Mark Foster, Gary Hall, Jason Lezak, fabiola molinawww.google.com/search )
even early 40's. (Dara Torres
Some of those swimmers will take up masters and smash records, just as Rowdy Gaines broke freestyle records in the 50 - 54 age group. Or Rich Abrahams has in 45 - 49, 50 - 54, 55 - 59, 60 - 64, & 65 - 69 age groups. Some of these elite swimmers are just dabbling in masters. Showing up at a few meets & swimming just a few events. Like Josh Davis who swam the 50 fly in 22.2 at the 2011 SCY nats in mesa. He's still got it! Imagine what he could do if he made it his "mission" to break as many masters records as he could?
It's possible for masters to swim faster in textile suits than they did in full body rubber suits.
I did it in the
200 IM LCM
2010 2:18.45 jammer vs 2009 2:21.24 full body rubber suit
400 IM SCY
2011 4.18.48 jammer vs 2010 4:22.70 full body B70
here's a few SFF Tips on swimming faster in textile suits:
Tip 282 Prepare for the New Suit Rules
tip 268 Swimming Faster Faster in Slower Suits
Swim Faster Faster Index
would be interested in hearing theories on why masters national records have been broken without the fast suits but world-class swimmers have not. i always thought the fast suits helped us more than them
some national & world records HAVE been broken by elite swimmers
like Ryan Lochte's SCM 200 & 400 IMs WRs
Most WRs are very difficult to break, with the flurry of records that fell in the past few years indicate the suits helped quite a bit. I'm sure we'll see some WRs fall as the Olympics approach.
Masters WRs are way easier.
Compare masters records to times swimmers have done in similar age groups.
Sometimes there's a big gap. Shouldn't the fastest times for swimmers at certain ages be the masters records or should records only be given to those who filled out the paperwork, joined masters and filing for the record.
Some former elite swimmers could just dabble with training and easily break masters records.
Younger faster masters swimmers age up every year.
Aging up is prime time to strike at records.
Swimmers who were in college in the 1950's
didn't train as far or hard as swimmers in the 1960's and weren't as fast.
And same when you compare swimmers from the 1960's with the 1970's.
Same with the 1970's compared to the 1980's.
Most swimmers stopped swimming after their Sr years in college.
At the 1984 Olympics, Rowdy was considered OLD at 25. He thought of himself as "really old" at 29 in the 1988 trials.
In the late 80's, 90's & 00's, we started seeing more world class swimmers training at elite levels in their:
mid to late 20's, (too many to list)
early mid & late 30's, (Mark Foster, Gary Hall, Jason Lezak, fabiola molinawww.google.com/search )
even early 40's. (Dara Torres
Some of those swimmers will take up masters and smash records, just as Rowdy Gaines broke freestyle records in the 50 - 54 age group. Or Rich Abrahams has in 45 - 49, 50 - 54, 55 - 59, 60 - 64, & 65 - 69 age groups. Some of these elite swimmers are just dabbling in masters. Showing up at a few meets & swimming just a few events. Like Josh Davis who swam the 50 fly in 22.2 at the 2011 SCY nats in mesa. He's still got it! Imagine what he could do if he made it his "mission" to break as many masters records as he could?
It's possible for masters to swim faster in textile suits than they did in full body rubber suits.
I did it in the
200 IM LCM
2010 2:18.45 jammer vs 2009 2:21.24 full body rubber suit
400 IM SCY
2011 4.18.48 jammer vs 2010 4:22.70 full body B70
here's a few SFF Tips on swimming faster in textile suits:
Tip 282 Prepare for the New Suit Rules
tip 268 Swimming Faster Faster in Slower Suits
Swim Faster Faster Index
