The next Canadian Masters Swimming Championships will be held 5/20/2011 to 5/23/2011 in Montreal. I believe it will be SCM.
Unfortunately the Masters Swimming Canada site has very little information on the meet as yet. I would like to correspond with someone who knows more details, including venue, which events are on which dates, event order, etc.
Any ideas? Thanks!
I swam in the 2009 CA championships that were held in Toronto (along with Glen, Bill, Karlyn, Don and the infamous Gail Roper). I would not worry about pool measurement and time submission to USMS and FINA. Our Canadian counterparts are competent and will do due diligence (en.wikipedia.org/.../Due_diligence) in terms of submitting times and completing the right forms. They ran a great meet!
I have been in email contact with one of the meet managers. Basically, I was told they would not submit times to USMS, which is fine. But I was also told they won't measure the pool. They measure the pool once a year because of the expense.
Here is what I was told specifically:
"We have no plan of submitting times to USMS. Just like worlds for example, it’s USMS jobs to retrieve times done by their members our side the USA. Having said that, our nationals have a long history of having US swimmers attending. We also have a good relationship with USMS. We will have numerous USMS members participate at this years meet. I know that USMS knows where to get the results and I’m sure they will.
As for pool measurements, this pool is regularly host to nationals meets and in accordance with SNC and FINA rules it is measured every year. We are not responsible for any US records that you would beat, USMS is, but for any world record it is our job to fill out all applicable documents and forward them to FINA. We will have someone responsible for this. Be assured that if your where to beat any records, the pool will be legal, times will be official and FINA documents will be sent." ...
"Yes we do have a bulkhead. FINA rules state that the pool needs to be measured by a qualified technicien who is licensed to do so once per year. Leeway is very small and measures are taken with a laser. Each lane must be measured. Cost is about 1000$ each time. I'm sure you understand that we can't do this everyday and measuring with a tape measure would not meet criteria's. We are expecting numerous nationals and world records at the meet. We have lot's of experiences with such meet and have never had a record not awarded. We've hosted this meet back in 03 with a large # is US swimmers attending and did not measure the pool each day."
In light of this, how can times count for USMS? Does a swimmer have to bring their own laser measure? Very odd situation where one could get a WR but not a NR?
I swam in the 2009 CA championships that were held in Toronto (along with Glen, Bill, Karlyn, Don and the infamous Gail Roper). I would not worry about pool measurement and time submission to USMS and FINA. Our Canadian counterparts are competent and will do due diligence (en.wikipedia.org/.../Due_diligence) in terms of submitting times and completing the right forms. They ran a great meet!
I have been in email contact with one of the meet managers. Basically, I was told they would not submit times to USMS, which is fine. But I was also told they won't measure the pool. They measure the pool once a year because of the expense.
Here is what I was told specifically:
"We have no plan of submitting times to USMS. Just like worlds for example, it’s USMS jobs to retrieve times done by their members our side the USA. Having said that, our nationals have a long history of having US swimmers attending. We also have a good relationship with USMS. We will have numerous USMS members participate at this years meet. I know that USMS knows where to get the results and I’m sure they will.
As for pool measurements, this pool is regularly host to nationals meets and in accordance with SNC and FINA rules it is measured every year. We are not responsible for any US records that you would beat, USMS is, but for any world record it is our job to fill out all applicable documents and forward them to FINA. We will have someone responsible for this. Be assured that if your where to beat any records, the pool will be legal, times will be official and FINA documents will be sent." ...
"Yes we do have a bulkhead. FINA rules state that the pool needs to be measured by a qualified technicien who is licensed to do so once per year. Leeway is very small and measures are taken with a laser. Each lane must be measured. Cost is about 1000$ each time. I'm sure you understand that we can't do this everyday and measuring with a tape measure would not meet criteria's. We are expecting numerous nationals and world records at the meet. We have lot's of experiences with such meet and have never had a record not awarded. We've hosted this meet back in 03 with a large # is US swimmers attending and did not measure the pool each day."
In light of this, how can times count for USMS? Does a swimmer have to bring their own laser measure? Very odd situation where one could get a WR but not a NR?