Right now current suit rules dictate, that
Men wear must wear jammers or briefs in meets &
Women can race in zipperless kneeskins
Guys, what if men were allowed to race in zipperless kneeskins?
I for one think more coverage would allow me to swim faster.
What if masters men were given the choice?
What would you choose?
Ande
I feel sorry for the women that ,if they want the fastest suit,they have to spend $350 for a suit that is hard to get on,a pain for emergency bathroom trips,and lasts a couple of meets.Why would I want to inflict this on myself?
I feel sorry for the women that ,if they want the fastest suit,they have to spend $350 for a suit that is hard to get on,a pain for emergency bathroom trips,and lasts a couple of meets.
This is exactly why I bought this, instead, for future swim meets:
www.swimoutlet.com/.../12749.htm
I'm still wearing the Speedo Endurance suit (the funky one at Nationals) I bought on clearance over a year ago, because it's living up to its "Endurance" name. The suit won't die. It's bulletproof. So, it looks like I will be training in it for a loooong time.
For a newbie swimmer on a budget, a $25 Speedo makes a whole lot more sense, for me; especially since I have a long way to go to max out my potential, before a suit would make a difference.
For others who are willing to spend $350, go through the struggles of getting in and out of them, and are Top 10 swimmers, I say, "You go girls!" :cheerleader:
In all seriousness, I would be in favor of zipperless kneeskins for the men. The better to constrain the bellies and moobs.
:applaud: Me too. I have no problem with men in kneeskins, I think women look a bit goofy in kneesins too, myself included, but it hides more flab.
In fact bring on the zipper to hold it all in better - except I wouldn't buy a new zippered suit if it wasn't legal for all meets, nor would I spend $350 on one.
Thanks for the link Coach. This study (given the small sample size) appears to confirm Ande's intuition.
Didn't this group assist in the development of a TYR suit (arm bands)?
pdjang - Your welcome, and Ande's intuition is correct. This was the original study that confirmed more coverage (upper body) reduced drag. These were textile suits so no other properties like buoyancy etc. affected the results.
From there, we then moved on to developing the drag reducing technology used for the TYR Aquashift swimsuit that also included a swim cap and the arm bands.
Budd
No, no and no!
Here's my solution (one that Jim Thornton will embrace): take the number of square inches presently allowed for mens' jammers and make the women have the same amount of fabric, but of course they must cover up the 'naughty bits'. I think what would evolve is a very high cut on the hips (virtually thong-like in the rear) suit. That would be equality in fabric and boost the numbers of volunteer timers.
Thanks for the link Coach. This study (given the small sample size) appears to confirm Ande's intuition.
Didn't this group assist in the development of a TYR suit (arm bands)?
Ande:
I had previously posted this study we conducted on textile swimsuit configurations for men, and how the different suit configurations and the amount of coverage affects the drag. (Textile Suits)
See specifically page 4.
Mollendorf, Joseph C., Albert C. Termin II, Eric Oppenheim, and David R. Pendergast. “Effect of Swim Suit Design on Passive Drag.” Medicine & Science in Sport & Exercise 9. (May 2004): 1-7.
Originally posted by ande - Right now current suit rules dictate, that
Men wear must wear jammers or briefs in meets &
Women can race in zipperless kneeskins
Guys, what if men were allowed to race in zipperless kneeskins?
I for one think more coverage would allow me to swim faster.Ande:
I had previously posted this study we conducted on textile swimsuit configurations for men, and how the different suit configurations and the amount of coverage affects the drag. (Textile Suits)
See specifically page 4.
Mollendorf, Joseph C., Albert C. Termin II, Eric Oppenheim, and David R. Pendergast. “Effect of Swim Suit Design on Passive Drag.” Medicine & Science in Sport & Exercise 9. (May 2004): 1-7.