Can you swim without internal shoulder rotation?

I did a quick search and saw a lot of threads on shoulders with a lot of responses, so if this has been discussed before, smack (I mean FORGIVE) me, or something. But is it possible, and optimal, to swim all four strokes without internally rotating the shoulder joint? As in sliding the hands in flat, always, rather than "pinkie out/pinkie in" for backstroke, or slightly angled hands (thumb first) for entry in fly (and I think even ever-so-slightly angled hands means slightly internally rotated shoulder joint, means ouch ouch ouch for me). Etc. (for free and ***, too, flat-handed entry, never internally rotating?)
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    As in sliding the hands in flat, always, rather than "pinkie out/pinkie in" for backstroke, or slightly angled hands (thumb first) for entry in fly (and I think even ever-so-slightly angled hands means slightly internally rotated shoulder joint, means ouch ouch ouch for me). Etc. (for free and ***, too, flat-handed entry, never internally rotating?) I have the same trouble for backstroke when I try to enter pinky first" My shoulders hurt. I have tried rotating the forearm, rotating the whole arm, nothing seems to help. I usually enter the water with the back of my hand. I get told I slap the water while doing this entry but it is the only time my shoulders don't hurt. I am willing to learn a new way of entering pinky first, if someone can share how to do it without shoulder pain.
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  • Former Member
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    As in sliding the hands in flat, always, rather than "pinkie out/pinkie in" for backstroke, or slightly angled hands (thumb first) for entry in fly (and I think even ever-so-slightly angled hands means slightly internally rotated shoulder joint, means ouch ouch ouch for me). Etc. (for free and ***, too, flat-handed entry, never internally rotating?) I have the same trouble for backstroke when I try to enter pinky first" My shoulders hurt. I have tried rotating the forearm, rotating the whole arm, nothing seems to help. I usually enter the water with the back of my hand. I get told I slap the water while doing this entry but it is the only time my shoulders don't hurt. I am willing to learn a new way of entering pinky first, if someone can share how to do it without shoulder pain.
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