Guys i have greatly improved my kick. Before I could kick 25 meters without board on 17.1-18.2 seconds. Now after empshasising my legs both in and out of water i timed myself for a 25 meters kick without board and i was amazed at the result. I went 14.21 without board. My swimming times have also improved greatly. So here is a kickin video of mine. It was done in a water polo pool (33 meters/22 meters).
YouTube- Kickin without board.MTS
Any thoughts on my kick will be greatly appreciated. Please let me know if i am doing anything wrong. THANKSSSS
Now that you master the flutter kick very well, you should introduce a SDK portion to those sprints and see what impact it has on time.
Yes, post a vid of the same thing but with SDK:agree:
Thanks man. So anybody else interested to help me?????????????? Well, you're already under 15sec on 25m flutter kick. I don't think you need any help.
The kicking mechanics shown on your clip is near perfection. I say near but honestly, I can't find any flaws to it. Body position is great, very streamlined.
And like you discovered, these old cliches about the need to keep the kicking in the water (as opposed to taping over the surface) are totally wrong.
If I had one little tiny advise: Now that you master the flutter kick very well, you should introduce a SDK portion to those sprints and see what impact it has on time. You may get even faster with let's say 5 or 6 SDK prior starting the flutter kicking action, who knows!
Just to change it up a bit. You could try the same thing in a long axis position (one arm up and one arm down). This will put your body in a position closer to how you swim (with a body roll). You can do it with a snorkel and focus only on the kick.
Great intensity btw!
Gary Hall was probably close to 10.0 for 25 yards
I've been 10.9 for 25 yards, so 25 meters is probably a bit over 12
Gary is one of the fastest flutter kickers who ever went to UT
Gary could flutter kick 100 yards in around 55
Shaun Jordan kicked 50 yards with a board from a dive wearing a brief in the late 80's early 90's in 23.3.
Ian Crocker was an excellent flutter kicker,
he kicked a 50 from a push with a board in around 24.6 and a
100 in 53 or 54
though his SDK was much faster, in his prime I bet he could easily SDK a 100 yards with one stroke into each flip turn under 43 or 44 seconds
he could probably SDK 25 yards in 9.2 or 3
People are much faster without boards.
Boards have much more drag,
you make 2 fists at the end of the board to hold it
try SDKing with 2 fists fast for time instead of flat streamlined hands
your kicking speed comes from a combination of your:
+ kicking technique, (some swimmers have better feel for the water with their feet)
+ jumping ability,
+ your streamline,
+ body position,
+ strength,
+ kicking conditioning,
+ body proportions, (head, torso ... )
+ foot size & flexibility,
+ knee hyperextension
+ expectations &
+ ability to get & stay psyched.
you can inprove all this with proper training
Ande
Guys, BTW I have gotta couple of questions. Why is kicking without board faster than with board or is it just me? my best time with a board in 25 meters is 15.9 seconds which is slower than my without board kicking. Is it because of the different body positions or is it just that kicking fast with a board requires more power of the legs ??? I have heard that some of the elite swimmers can kick 50 meters on a board in less than 30 seconds, if that is true then howcome they do it??????
I want to know a few more things. Does anybody know what are the fastest times for 25 meters freestyle from the block (without the SUITS). I have read in the race club forum that once gary hall jr did a 10 flat off the blocks in training. Can anybody really go under 10 seconds without the suit????? Sorry if i had bore you. But plz let me know..........................................................................
@rtodd : Thanks man. But I am not quite a torpedo yet.
@shahboz : Seems like a very interesting idea. I will give it a try. Thank you.
@SolarEnergy : Thank you. Your words were inspiring. My dolphin kick is not really strong. Well its faster than my flutter kick but not quite good enough. I don't have a coach so I have to learn everything on my own. So its pretty difficult for me. I don't even know how to get a balanced workout in which I can work on everything on a daily basis. But I strongly believe that if I start to work on my SDK, I can be very good.
@__steve__ : It was a 22 meter pool and i will try to post a video of my SDK. Thanks for your reply
