Kicking a 2 Fly?

Is it legal to keep your hands in a streamline position and just dolphin kick for a 200 fly (as long as you're not underwater more than 15 meters)? Or swim it by 50s alternating fly and kicking? Just wondering ... I think it is based on something the Wolfman said, but would like confirmation. Don't bother to say swim the whole thing. I can't/won't/don't want to/aren't interested. I have a power fly stroke not suited for a 200 and can't keep the arms recovering for 200 yards/meters.
  • Why the hell would you want to swim a 200 fly? That is like wanting to swim the 1500 or any ow race? Why would you want to put yourself through that much agony This from the person who thinks 50s should be eliminated from swimming? :afraid:
  • Why would you want to do this? Just curious. IMHO, it would not be faster than someone swimming it, as they are not only kicking but pulling also. I will admit I kick as much of a 200 fly underwater in a streamline, but I would never kick on the surface; too slow. Kicking 10m is not faster than swimming 10m per lap. :2cents: As I get older, I apparently contemplate odd things to amuse myself. I know kicking the whole thing would be slower. But I can't see swimming 8 lengths of fly. 4 is hard enough. I like Geek's idea of kicking UW + one stroke and kick to the wall. Chaos, I would definitely enter monofin competitions if there were any to be had. In this country.
  • I know kicking the whole thing would be slower. If just kicking the 200 "fly" is not a strategy for going faster than you would swimming fly, then you could do it just as well during a 200 "free." Also, that strategy might be even more mortifying to your daughter.
  • This from the person who thinks 50s should be eliminated from swimming? :afraid: Apparently Wookie has a very narrowly-defined sweet spot: longer than 50, shorter than 200. The 200 fly distinguishes the swimmer from the noodler. It's no wonder Fort wants to "swim" it.
  • Where are you quoting the rule from? Link please. Thanks. Rules are right here on the USMS site, under the Articles & Publications tab: http://www.usms.org/rules/
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    Why the hell would you want to swim a 200 fly? That is like wanting to swim the 1500 or any ow race? Why would you want to put yourself through that much agony
  • It's definitely legal as long as you surface by 15 meters off each wall. I remember there was a University of Washington swimmer a few years back who had a shoulder problem so dolphin kicked a 100 back at a dual meet. I don't think she won, but she definitely scored points. I seem to recall she broke one minute, too.
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    This from the person who thinks 50s should be eliminated from swimming? :afraid: Yes, eliminate 50's and 1000/1500/1650's. I am an equal opporunity offender
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    Apparently Wookie has a very narrowly-defined sweet spot: longer than 50, shorter than 200. The 200 fly distinguishes the swimmer from the noodler. It's no wonder Fort wants to "swim" it. I don't like 50's or the distance events. I don't mind doing the 400/500 every once and awhile but I do prefer 100-200 back/free. In my previous life as a swimmer...high school and college, I could do the 200 fly pretty well. Don't have that desire or ability anymore.
  • I was wondering how this meet went? Did you swim this all kicking 200 fly finally? No, I decided not to swim the Jan. Open meet since my kid wasn't swimming in it. Not sure now when I'll get another chance to try a 2 fly as my meet cards are filled up with other events through Nats. And I'm definitely not trying this long course! This may be my new event next year. Still intrigued.