Kicking a 2 Fly?

I say do it to mortify your kid :D She just told me there was "no way" I could SDK to the 15 meter mark every length. Probably true. But when someone taunts you like that ... Makes me think about just kicking it. I could always coffee break on the turns and do 8 mini shooters.

Is it legal to keep your hands in a streamline position and just dolphin kick for a 200 fly (as long as you're not underwater more than 15 meters)? trouble maker....

From the beginning of the first arm pull, the body shall be kept on the ***. Both arms must be brought forward over the water and pulled back simultaneously.In legal speak, the rule does not say that one must take continuous strokes after coming to the surface. You just have to remain on your chest. The way this reads, you could in theory come out of the 15 meters with a stroke...hold your hands together up front and kick on your stomach (for an unmeasured distance) while heading into the wall for a two handed touch. Granted the rule probably never took into account that someone might try this. But since there's no language to say otherwise, it could be perfectly legal.

fort, i think this is what you're looking for: en.wikipedia.org/.../Finswimming (no need to reinvent the wheel... unless to mortify one's offspring, in which case i stand firmly behind your endeavor)

Why would you want to do this? Just curious. IMHO, it would not be faster than someone swimming it, as they are not only kicking but pulling also. I will admit I kick as much of a 200 fly underwater in a streamline, but I would never kick on the surface; too slow. Kicking 10m is not faster than swimming 10m per lap. :2cents:

I remember there was a University of Washington swimmer a few years back who had a shoulder problem so dolphin kicked a 100 back at a dual meet. If I was ever inclined to swim anything containing fly other than perhaps a 100IM this would be my rationale. Preserve the shoulders at all costs. I (almost) never swim any fly in practice. Whacking a lane line or another swimmer's arm basically wrecks my shoulder for several days. On occasion if I can swim down the center of the lane without potential interference I will swim a 25. I should also admit that I was never a competitive swimmer in my younger days, so good fly technique has really never been a part of my bag of tricks. There is almost certainly a self-inflicted-pain component in the way I "swim" fly. S

As I read the rules there is nothing that requires a pull with a kick. Let's assume you make it 12-14 yards for each turn, then a pull out stroke, that easily puts you at 18-20 yards. As long as you kick to the wall and two hand touch it should be completely legal. If you really extended your strokes and did one pull per kick it is easily conceivable you could only take 24 strokes for the whole race, however. The cumulative impact of those u/w's will be rough though. I suggest Dolphina.

She just told me there was "no way" I could SDK to the 15 meter mark every length. Probably true. But when someone taunts you like that ... Makes me think about just kicking it. I could always coffee break on the turns and do 8 mini shooters. That sounds like a plan.15 M underwater to show your daughter she is wrong,kick on the surface and rest at the wall to make her wish she didn't know you.Good times all around.

That sounds like a plan.15 M underwater to show your daughter she is wrong,kick on the surface and rest at the wall to make her wish she didn't know you.Good times all around. :applaud: :cheerleader: :applaud: :cheerleader: :applaud: :cheerleader:

Why would you want to do this? I'm guessing split request. Race the first 50 or 100, then noodle the rest (within the rules). For what it's worth, taking extra kicks per stroke is how some people have described completing swims such as 1500/1650 fly. When I did a 500 fly to join the Butternuts, I probably should have done that, but I didn't, so for the last 200 of the 500, I was hanging on each turn for a few seconds, trying to get my pulse rate under control.