Andy Seibt G.O.A.T.

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I would like to nominate Andy Seibt as the greatest masters swimmer of all time. For those of you who are unaware, Andy swam the Big Shoulders open water race this weekend (it is also the USMS OW National Championship meet) and absolutely destroyed the field. And this was no slouch of a field: two college swimmers - one went a 4:24 in the 500 free in March the other a 3:47 in the 400IM! For comparisons sake, Andy went a 5:06 and 4:43 respectively in those events. Startling, I know! But it doesn't end there. Adam Dawkins, who in March beat Andy by more than a full minute in the 1,000 free and is also an experienced Open Water swimmer having completed the English Channel just 4 weeks ago was no match for our hero. Andy beat Adam by 3 seconds per 100M!!! But it DOESN'T even end there!!! There were two more swimmers in the event who beat Andy by a minute or more in the mile in March. Both of these swimmers were bested by Andy by several minutes. Just how good was this swim? Well it is not a stretch to say that it was the single greatest swim in the history of USMS. BY FAR. Imagine a 51 year old man going a 15:15 in the 1650 or 9:10 in the 1,000. It is difficult to compare open water events to pool events, but the margin of victory (one and half minutes over 5,000 M) over the quality field cannot be over-stated. Quite honestly I can see no reason why Andy shouldn't be put in the International Swimming Hall of Fame on this swim alone. I know that John Smith just threw up in his mouth, but until Mr. Smith starts going a 43 in the 100 free he is panty waste compared to Andy. In fact, we all owe Andy a debt of gratitude because we no longer have to view the Smiths with any kind of awe as their collection of swims (as well as the swims of many others) have been so greatly eclipsed by this feat. This swim should reinvent the sport of Masters swimming. Been stuck in the same rut for 14 years of Masters swimming? A good number of top 10 times per year but never that huge breakthrough. Well here you have it folks. Next year I too will have my 20% improvement. Mark me down for the World Record in the 50M free. Anything is possible, just dream big baby. Although technically why wait a year. Andy improved this much since June. One ancillary note is we can add to this story is that we can finally put to bed the "late bloomers theory," as postulated by my friend Ion Beza. But that's a whole 'nother story. (PS: Andy if this posts somehow ends up in front of you I personally want to tell you that I am sorry you have been put through this. But I will continue to be vociferous about the validity of this swim. From all accounts you are a swell guy. But you need to be honest with yourself and recognize that you are not capable of this miraculous feat. That is a tough thing to do, I am sure. But you didn't ask for the error and you don't have anything to be ashamed about. You are still one heck of a swimmer. Just not the greatest of all time.)
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  • I don't normally read the OW board so I'm just catching up on all the drama. - After reading the Big Shoulders race director's post and other accounts of the race setup, it sounds like Big Shoulders was run right and they made sure that the winner was legit beyond reasonable doubt, alien abduction theories aside. I've seen some badly organized events before (for the record they were triathlons, not OW swims) and this wasn't at all like those. - Think about the greatest race/competition/round of golf of your life. How much better than your normal self were you that day? How easy was it for you that day? How much do you wish you could bring it like that every day? Isn't is possible that for the winner, that Big Shoulders was his greatest day (so far)? The race director said that he had the race of his life and I see no reason not to believe it. - Lefty, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned PED's or genetic doping. Leave no roid unturned in your quest for... uh, what are you trying to do exactly? - Great job KNelson! - This is my fifth bullet point. - :banana:
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  • I don't normally read the OW board so I'm just catching up on all the drama. - After reading the Big Shoulders race director's post and other accounts of the race setup, it sounds like Big Shoulders was run right and they made sure that the winner was legit beyond reasonable doubt, alien abduction theories aside. I've seen some badly organized events before (for the record they were triathlons, not OW swims) and this wasn't at all like those. - Think about the greatest race/competition/round of golf of your life. How much better than your normal self were you that day? How easy was it for you that day? How much do you wish you could bring it like that every day? Isn't is possible that for the winner, that Big Shoulders was his greatest day (so far)? The race director said that he had the race of his life and I see no reason not to believe it. - Lefty, I'm surprised you haven't mentioned PED's or genetic doping. Leave no roid unturned in your quest for... uh, what are you trying to do exactly? - Great job KNelson! - This is my fifth bullet point. - :banana:
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