Triathletes in General

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So a lady friend of mine and I were discussing Masters training yesterday, specifically the art of sharing a lane with a mixture of like-minded people not necessarily doing the same work-out (ie: public swimming). Right now all of us are in the same boat; the local indoor Olympic-standard pool has been closed for bi-annual maintenance and we are all having to share a wierd old 50-yard outdoor pool which has long-course lap swimming for only a four hour window each day. Most everyone knows everybody by now, so we are all getting along pretty well. With the exception of the triathletes. So, without trying to poke a sleeping bear with a stick, why is it that tri-athletes cannot seem to get along with competitive swimmers in the training pool? Here are my observations of the group we have here, though they might not be typical examples: 1) Holy smoke are these guys serious about talking about serious training. Note how I worded that. They talk the talk a lot, ignore anything us competitive swimmers might have to say on the subject of training swimming, and generally clog up the end of the pool as they talk. and talk. and talk. Despite the fact they all sport the same middle-aged paunches, they just cannot conceptualize that they are not truly elite athletes and they do not get to set the rules of the pool. 2) They hog the lane. If these guys can drive, how come they cannot figure out circle swimming? It seems to me a pretty simple concept that you stay on your side of that black line on the pool bottom going one way, and then circle to the other side of the line on the way back. That darn line was not painted on the bottom of the pool just so you can swim straight. 3) Circle swimming and trying to mesh the circle swimming of several lanes is just a foreign concept to most of them. It just seems proper that if lane one is circling clockwise, lane two should circle counter-clockwise so you don't bash you freaking arms across the lane lines. The tria-athletes seem to always circle the absolutely wrong way, and with those wide-ass strokes they all seem to use, it is almost inevitable that you will clash. Thankfully most ex-competitive swimmer have developed that 6th sense that tells you to duck when you are about to be smashed (you all know that 6th sense: its called watching where you are going, another apparently foreign concept. Goggles are obviously used for finding floaters at the bottom of the pool rather than looking ahead periodically) 4) Interval training. Tri-athletes seem to believe that is a innovative, modern concept that needs far more study (usually done while they have deep discussions at the end of the pool) before they actually implement it. Serious tri-athletes just know that swimming the same 1000 meter swim with no set pace every single session is a clear formula for winning the next Iron-man. The tri-athletes seem to resent the breaking up of swim sets into reps on intervals, especially if it done by some pathetic competitive swimmer that keeps on passing them while they grind out that standard 1000. 5) Finally, my greatest irritation: X marks the spot!! When you sit at the end of the pool, discussing deeply distressing new concepts such as interval training, circle swimming, and high elbow recovery on the front crawl, why must you sit right in the center of the lane. Did it ever occur to you that the center of the lane has a big cross painted on it and generally Xs and crosses designate landing zones. Of course I know that you rarely use flip turns, but some of us poor simple-minded swimmers do and, from force of habit and in the interest of not smashing into the person behind us, we usually flip-turn on the X. We also tend to come in on one side of the line (that line on the bottom of the pool, put there presumably for some swimmers to find their way back to the discussion at the end of the pool) and leave on the other side. Its called circle swimming. Is there some shortage of information on swim training for tri-athletes? I know that there are all sorts of magazines and books about triathalon; do they all ignore the fact that to succeed at swimming you actually have to follow some sort of structured training program? Do they even touch base on simple pool training etiquette? I used to think that it was just my cross-eyed cussed and curmugeonly ways that found the local tri-athletes to be slightly slow and backward with regards to training-pool etiquette, but my lady-friend was far more cynical than I: she was pretty sure that the tri-athletes purposefully are difficult as part of a competitive strategy.
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    12 x 100's on 1:25 means that number 12 is when you leave on the :35. Swimming on :45 then number 12 is the 3 time you get to 15. If you are swimming a 1,000 checking the clock is easier than moving any kind of counting devise, plus it is invaluable to know your pacing. i would never stop in the middle of a 1,000, and can easily do the math, however, i often do sets like 20x 200's or 176x 25 fly or 50x 100 on 5sec rest...etc. the lane line works well to keep track.
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    Chaos you would hate having me in the lane next to you. I'm a chronic laneline puller when I do backstroke and would have all the little lane-line rings completely messed up. Actually if I know there'll be a lot of backstroke in a workout I push them all down to one end at the start to get the laneline ready :groovy:
  • I like to use my"Ironman" watch on solo swims. I prefigure my intervals for the whole workout and totally go by my watch. If I used the big pace clock(some times its not even on) I often lose track of how many reps I've done. I had no idea I was annoying people by doing this. Sorry :angel:!
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    deplorable behavior! Chaos you would hate having me in the lane next to you. I'm a chronic laneline puller when I do backstroke and would have all the little lane-line rings completely messed up. Actually if I know there'll be a lot of backstroke in a workout I push them all down to one end at the start to get the laneline ready :groovy:
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    I like to make jokes about the tri-guys too, but the root cause is probably because I am jealous of their endurance and drive to compete in an event that would bring me to my knees. During my master's practices, there are a number of tri-guys swimming, of all levels, and I have absolutely no issues to report. It is those noodler-types that call themselves tri-guys that I like to make fun. So when I make fun of tri-guys, it's those individuals who are leaning up against their camaro, listening to REO Speedwagon, thinking they are hot-sh*t, telling me wife they always swim a mile in the pool everytime they get in. Now that's a good opportunity to make fun.
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    I'm a reformed triathlete now doing almost all open water swims. I'm the butt of many jokes on my team whenever an IM set comes up. What I've told my teammates is that as soon as they can swim over 5 miles straight free in open water, I'll do so slammin' 100 IMs. So far, not one has taken me up on the challenge... I do slammin' 200 Im sets so tha I can swim over 5 miles OW just a little faster:) I read through most of these, As I am a recovering distance swimmer now triathlete I was happy to see that the tri folks were getting defended. It sure is nice to have someone to talk to at the front of a tri start...all those other recovering swimmers.
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    I really get a kick out of the tris who use an abacus! And I've seen several instances. . . Hey now. I built myself one shortly after I started swimming again, and that was long before I decided to train for a triathlon. Mine is a gladware disposable container with some floral wire and cheap beads. I carry my goggles, H2O Interval and my YMCA card in it down to the pool, and fill it up with water at the end of my lane so it doesn't get knocked around by any waves. Very helpful. I haven't come across and triathletes that I know of, and I am looking for them. I need someone to train with! It's all relative though I think. I feel like the king of the pool at the 'Y due to my regular visits and miles logged, but there are some that swim faster than me, and I don't think I could keep up with the highschool teams. (And when I was ON one I didn't either.) As much as I swim circles around many of my neighbors here, most of you would likely consider me a speedbump. And ironically, that behavior suits me more now that I want to do triathlons, since obstacles more simulate open water swims with bodies colliding anyway. -eric
  • I also don't understand the griping about us and doing only freestyle. Why would we do anything else? Swimming other strokes can allow you to train more because it works different muscles, it improves your feel for the water (your catch, which is a big deal in freestyle), and it contributes to better overall swimming fitness. That said, these problems are not restricted to triathletes, but any cretin who doesn't feel like they should have to follow the rules of the pool or goes to masters practice but doesn't want to train like the other competitive swimmers. My pet peeve is the people who do not finish to the wall and abruptly stand up in the middle of the lane 3 yards short instead.
  • I also don't understand the griping about us and doing only freestyle. Why would we do anything else? Here's why - doing the other strokes, learning to flip turn, dumping the paddles will help you in tris. You get into a swim program and train with a coach doing strokes, I 100% guarantee improvement in your races. Paul Smith has proven this time after time in his program.
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    That slowtwitch thread was much funnier than this one. Does that make me a triathlete? :D