Triathletes in General

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So a lady friend of mine and I were discussing Masters training yesterday, specifically the art of sharing a lane with a mixture of like-minded people not necessarily doing the same work-out (ie: public swimming). Right now all of us are in the same boat; the local indoor Olympic-standard pool has been closed for bi-annual maintenance and we are all having to share a wierd old 50-yard outdoor pool which has long-course lap swimming for only a four hour window each day. Most everyone knows everybody by now, so we are all getting along pretty well. With the exception of the triathletes. So, without trying to poke a sleeping bear with a stick, why is it that tri-athletes cannot seem to get along with competitive swimmers in the training pool? Here are my observations of the group we have here, though they might not be typical examples: 1) Holy smoke are these guys serious about talking about serious training. Note how I worded that. They talk the talk a lot, ignore anything us competitive swimmers might have to say on the subject of training swimming, and generally clog up the end of the pool as they talk. and talk. and talk. Despite the fact they all sport the same middle-aged paunches, they just cannot conceptualize that they are not truly elite athletes and they do not get to set the rules of the pool. 2) They hog the lane. If these guys can drive, how come they cannot figure out circle swimming? It seems to me a pretty simple concept that you stay on your side of that black line on the pool bottom going one way, and then circle to the other side of the line on the way back. That darn line was not painted on the bottom of the pool just so you can swim straight. 3) Circle swimming and trying to mesh the circle swimming of several lanes is just a foreign concept to most of them. It just seems proper that if lane one is circling clockwise, lane two should circle counter-clockwise so you don't bash you freaking arms across the lane lines. The tria-athletes seem to always circle the absolutely wrong way, and with those wide-ass strokes they all seem to use, it is almost inevitable that you will clash. Thankfully most ex-competitive swimmer have developed that 6th sense that tells you to duck when you are about to be smashed (you all know that 6th sense: its called watching where you are going, another apparently foreign concept. Goggles are obviously used for finding floaters at the bottom of the pool rather than looking ahead periodically) 4) Interval training. Tri-athletes seem to believe that is a innovative, modern concept that needs far more study (usually done while they have deep discussions at the end of the pool) before they actually implement it. Serious tri-athletes just know that swimming the same 1000 meter swim with no set pace every single session is a clear formula for winning the next Iron-man. The tri-athletes seem to resent the breaking up of swim sets into reps on intervals, especially if it done by some pathetic competitive swimmer that keeps on passing them while they grind out that standard 1000. 5) Finally, my greatest irritation: X marks the spot!! When you sit at the end of the pool, discussing deeply distressing new concepts such as interval training, circle swimming, and high elbow recovery on the front crawl, why must you sit right in the center of the lane. Did it ever occur to you that the center of the lane has a big cross painted on it and generally Xs and crosses designate landing zones. Of course I know that you rarely use flip turns, but some of us poor simple-minded swimmers do and, from force of habit and in the interest of not smashing into the person behind us, we usually flip-turn on the X. We also tend to come in on one side of the line (that line on the bottom of the pool, put there presumably for some swimmers to find their way back to the discussion at the end of the pool) and leave on the other side. Its called circle swimming. Is there some shortage of information on swim training for tri-athletes? I know that there are all sorts of magazines and books about triathalon; do they all ignore the fact that to succeed at swimming you actually have to follow some sort of structured training program? Do they even touch base on simple pool training etiquette? I used to think that it was just my cross-eyed cussed and curmugeonly ways that found the local tri-athletes to be slightly slow and backward with regards to training-pool etiquette, but my lady-friend was far more cynical than I: she was pretty sure that the tri-athletes purposefully are difficult as part of a competitive strategy.
  • 3) Circle swimming and trying to mesh the circle swimming of several lanes is just a foreign concept to most of them. It just seems proper that if lane one is circling clockwise, lane two should circle counter-clockwise so you don't bash you freaking arms across the lane lines. . Wait, ... what? I can't speak of swimming in Canada, but in the US, where I've swum competitively since 1978, everyone swam counterclockwise, just like we drive, on the right hand of the lane. Sure there would be some hand smacks on occassion, but its really no big deal.
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    When you smack hands with some tri wearing the latest Titanium 12 inch Guaranteed-to-make-you-swim-faster-without-actually-learning-how-Swim paddles it tends to sting...
  • "How to spot a Triathlete in the pool" Lower body fat?
  • Interestingly, the only irritating tris in our workouts are in the slower lanes. When Wendy Ingraham swam with us, she was faster than most of even the guys, and she was fun to swim with. Now Chris Lieto (who's been on our team seemingly forever) has sort of taken her place. Good swimmer, nice, and most people like him. Never had a problem with tris at the faster end of the pool. Now the other end of the pool... that's another story. They don't always play well with lanemates. And we'll leave it at that!
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    Lower body fat? Ouch. That's going to leave a mark.
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    Chaos you would hate having me in the lane next to you. I'm a chronic laneline puller when I do backstroke and would have all the little lane-line rings completely messed up. Actually if I know there'll be a lot of backstroke in a workout I push them all down to one end at the start to get the laneline ready :groovy: Carefull!!! Last time I did that, I dislocated two fingers and broke one. OUCH!!! Wait, ... what? I can't speak of swimming in Canada, but in the US, where I've swum competitively since 1978, everyone swam counterclockwise, just like we drive, on the right hand of the lane. Sure there would be some hand smacks on occassion, but its really no big deal. I've never heard of the meshed circle swimming. I've been competing for the larger part of 20 years (few years hiatus after college). Sounds smart, and would definitely get rid of the habit some have of circle swimming in competitions. I've never had a problem with triathlete, but I have had a ton of similar problems with fitness swimmers and new swimmers. I'm not known for being quiet, and I usually have few problems after I help them with swimming etiquete. Also, I'm pretty adiment about using wall, and finishing to the wall. I've had a few comments said to me, but if I tell you that I need to finish and need to do flip turns, I'll do them. I wont use a person as a wall, and I'll try to no splash too much, but I'll be nice as I can make sure those in the same lane know how I swim. And I'll make sure I'm as courteous to them. It's the passing I've never gotten fixed. If you aren't doing flip turns, and someone is on your feet, there should be no problem to wait until the wall, but let them pass at the wall PLEASE, especially when there's a full lane it's hard to go around.
  • - tri tan lines on the legs Heart rate monitor tan lines:D
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    Throwing more fuel on the fire... :duel: "How to spot a Triathlete in the pool" over at slowtwitch.com: forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi A few gems: - the huge garmin 310x/405 on their wrist instead of using the pace clock - hr monitor - refusal to learn how to do flip turns - Open water (big) goggles - giving each other pointers on technique/training advice, LOL! - tri tan lines on the legs
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    Phew, good thing I'm an aquathlon-ete!
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    This thread appeared to be dormant for the few months, so it is funny to see it come to life again. This past week, all the triathletes started coming back to the pool to begin training again. It's been quiet for a while, kind of nice. Now it is more crowded. My lane only added one more person, but the lanes next to me have added 3 or so per lane. All swimming with their watches on. They don't show up for the Saturday 7 AM practice.