Reducing stroke per length in backstroke

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I find it much harder to reduce the stroke per length in backstroke than in free. In free, you can glide a long distance in each stroke, but not so in backstroke. What should I work on, the pull, or the kick, or the coordination of the hand and leg? Appreciate any comments.
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  • But the kick really contributes to the torso roll, which in turn contributes to the pull efficiency. And I think torso roll contributes a lot more to pull efficiency in backstroke than in freestyle. Many people swim a pretty flat freestyle pretty fast, but flat backstroke is nearly always slow backstroke. And while many people can pull freestyle with a pull-buoy just about as fast as they can swim, a lot of decent backstrokers can barely pull backstroke with a pull-buoy at all. No. Watch some video of great backstrokers. You will see in the underwater shots how the forearm and upper arm are at about 90 degrees through the middle range of the pull. But their two arms are nearly in opposition to one another, with one entering the water just about as the other is leaving it. Rotation is intitated thru your core not as an extension of the kick...look at some of the underwater shots of Piersol, Lochte, etc. and you will see wildly different kicks...some are fairly level 6 beat, others have more of a scissor movement, some have almost no kick...but they all have huge core rotation and a very deep catch. You should be able to do single arm back drills with virtually no kick and focusing on that type of rotation to incease DPS... Have you seen this? YouTube - 2009 | Ryosuke Irie | World Record | 152.86 | Men's 200m Backstroke | 10 May 2009 * And yes I know that FINA did not recognize the WR because of the illegal suit.
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  • But the kick really contributes to the torso roll, which in turn contributes to the pull efficiency. And I think torso roll contributes a lot more to pull efficiency in backstroke than in freestyle. Many people swim a pretty flat freestyle pretty fast, but flat backstroke is nearly always slow backstroke. And while many people can pull freestyle with a pull-buoy just about as fast as they can swim, a lot of decent backstrokers can barely pull backstroke with a pull-buoy at all. No. Watch some video of great backstrokers. You will see in the underwater shots how the forearm and upper arm are at about 90 degrees through the middle range of the pull. But their two arms are nearly in opposition to one another, with one entering the water just about as the other is leaving it. Rotation is intitated thru your core not as an extension of the kick...look at some of the underwater shots of Piersol, Lochte, etc. and you will see wildly different kicks...some are fairly level 6 beat, others have more of a scissor movement, some have almost no kick...but they all have huge core rotation and a very deep catch. You should be able to do single arm back drills with virtually no kick and focusing on that type of rotation to incease DPS... Have you seen this? YouTube - 2009 | Ryosuke Irie | World Record | 152.86 | Men's 200m Backstroke | 10 May 2009 * And yes I know that FINA did not recognize the WR because of the illegal suit.
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