University of Washington is cutting both their men's and women's swimming programs. I hope that the people who do their Masters training there aren't affected. Usually, it's the men's program that gets cut. But, here, they cut both of the swimming programs.
www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/.../21029.asp
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It's well known that college football and basketball players are nothing but hired actors who's function is to bring in $$$ and other than playing sports, they really don't have any business being on a college campus.
No Dolphin, this little fact is only circulated at Klan rallies so only you and cantwait4reich are privy to it.
I think people tend to forget that their are a lot of division 1 teams out there with solid swimming programs (and a chance to grow/improve). Sure the Pac 10 conference has taken a huge hit, but take a look at the Big West conference in CA for example. UC Irvine, UCSB, Cal Poly, UOP, and CSU Northridge all of D1 men's and women's swimming. Sure, none of these schools get representation (not much at least) at the NCAA championships or anything of the sort. But, they are all quality schools (most of which have no football team) with swim programs that are on the verge of breaking through.
If the "big time" schools don't want swimmers, send them to schools like this. They will improve the quality of the team and be taken care of and appreciated.
What makes you think that these Big West school's swim programs are any more secure than UW was last year at this time?
Ask some questions.
Talk to the swim head coach at the university that you are connected to as an alumni or a masters athlete.
Most of them are very concerned about the immediate future of their teams.
(just don't call me polly)
It's well known that college football and basketball players are nothing but hired actors who's function is to bring in $$$ and other than playing sports, they really don't have any business being on a college campus.
Just look at how many professional sports figures ("O.J." for an example) wind up in a serious confrontation with the criminal justice system.
Dolphin 2
Wow. I didn't know there were so many actors that can run a 4.5 sec 40 yard dash, leap 40 inches vertically, and dunk a basketball.
Lots wrong with college football and basketball - but like with most things - you are full of hyperbole.
That's really interesting to me. I guess I have always been under the impression that athletes are disciplined and determined. Why wouldn't you finish college? (I realize that there are any number of circumstances that could keep someone from not finishing.) I just figured that athletes would have a higher graduation rate.
Pollyanna, Jr. (b/c we all know that Ahelee means Pollyanna ; )
Its because all these programs produce or attempt to produce pro athletes. With the rules now stating that basketball players have to go to college for a year before they can go pro really hurts those numbers. you have the Greg Odens and Derrick Rose's that enroll for a year and leave. They never graduate, it hurts the percentages for that school. Samething with football, but I think its 2 years then you can enter the draft.
Its not that they aren't determined or motivated, they are just looking to sign that fat paycheck asap!
The Seattle news (KOMO) quoted the athletic department as saying the main reason was the lack of sales of football tickets. The lack of football tickets sales is clearly the result of a history of recruiting incompendency...such as
1. recruiting a dumbo quarterback in jake locker, while turning thumbs down on the kid from Prosser who is now a All American with Boise State (and wanted to play for UW).
2. recruiting the ghetto busters from LA that USC or UCLA rejected as probable jailbait and usually end up in King County jail.
3. being politically correct hiring a washed up minority coach from the worst football program in the United States -Notre Dame...and then keeping him for five years so as to continue to be sensitive to minorities in Seattle.
4. letting Rick Neuhesel go because he wouldn't stand in line to bang tainted AD Barbara Hedges. i guess too many of the LA ghetto busters in front.
You sir, are a racist and a worm.
cantwait4bike, I don't want to jump on a bashing bandwagon. But I also don't want you or any other readers of this forum to think that by my remaining silent I believe that your post was OK, or that that I failed to find it offensive. I found it deeply disturbing, and your follow-up reply in which you fail to recognize the problems with it equally so.
At times, silence can amount to tacit acquiescence. I won't sleep well without speaking out.
I keep hearing about how we are at least on the cusp of a post-racial society, in which all men are judged by their actions, inactions, and words, rather than the color of their skin. And while I know better, in my more optimistic moments I like to believe that we are just about on that cusp.
And then, inevitably, something ugly and base like your shameful post surfaces to remind me that the dream remains, for now, just a dream.
What makes you think that these Big West school's swim programs are any more secure than UW was last year at this time?
Definitely a bad assumption. We did have practice at the University of Washington last night and one of the assistants filled us in on the details of the teams being dropped. One thing he pointed out that's really worth thinking about is that the team supoporters are always great in reacting to these situations, but they really need to be proactive. Don't assume ANY program is safe. Without a solid revenue stream coming in there's no guarantee that any team will survive.
4. letting Rick Neuhesel go because he wouldn't stand in line to bang tainted AD Barbara Hedges. i guess too many of the LA ghetto busters in front.
This was my personal favorite. Nice. I'm sure you'd say the same about a "tainted" male AD, right? :rolleyes:
